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Chargement... The Dark Forest (Remembrance of Earth’s Past, #2) (2008)par Liu Cixin (Auteur)
Information sur l'oeuvreLa forêt sombre par Liu Cixin (2008)
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La 4e de couverture indique : "L'humanité le sait désormais : dans un peu plus de quatre siècles, la flotte trisolarienne envahira le système solaire. La Terre doit impérativement préparer la parade, mais tout progrès dans les sciences fondamentales est entravé par les intellectrons. Grâce à ces derniers, les Trisolariens peuvent espionner toutes les conversations et tous les ordinateurs, en revanche ils sont incapables de lire dans l'âme humaine. Parallèlement aux programmes de défense classiques visant à lever des armées spatiales nationales, le Conseil de défense planétaire imagine donc un nouveau projet : le programme Colmateur. Quatre individus seront chargés d'élaborer chacun de leur côté des stratégies pour contrer l'invasion ennemie, sans en révéler la nature. Ils auront à leur disposition un budget presque illimité et pourront agir comme bon leur semble, sans avoir besoin de se justifier. Livrés à eux-mêmes, ils devront penser seuls, et brouiller les pistes. Trois des hommes désignés sont des personnalités politiques de premier plan et des scientifiques éminents, mais le quatrième est un parfait anonyme. Astronome et professeur de sociologie sans envergure, le Chinois Luo Ji ignore totalement la raison pour laquelle on lui confie cette mission. Tout ce qu'il sait, c'est qu'il est désormais l'un des Colmateurs, et que les Trisolariens veulent sa mort." Aucune description trouvée dans une bibliothèque |
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