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hear some shifted vowels

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1Crypto-Willobie
Sep 16, 2014, 11:47 pm

Interesting clip on 16c/17c "original pronunciation":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s

2henkl
Sep 17, 2014, 5:58 am

Very interesting, indeed. Of course, the "original pronunciation" will always be an approximation.

3anglemark
Sep 17, 2014, 7:01 am

But we can be confident that it's a close approximation. We have enough data for that.

4henkl
Sep 17, 2014, 8:19 am

>3 anglemark: Yes, I know.

5anglemark
Sep 17, 2014, 8:50 am

Looking at the books we have in common, I believe you do.

6Crypto-Willobie
Sep 17, 2014, 8:55 am

But here's a bracing critique by Holger Syme of Original Pronunciation as a theatrical concept: http://www.dispositio.net/archives/1942 . (Scroll down to find the section on O.P., although the first part of the article is intersting too .)

7IreneF
Sep 17, 2014, 9:56 am

I didn't read the entire paper, but what Syme missed about RP vs OP is that RP is pronounced more in the nose, and has fewer full-throated sounds, besides being non-rhotic. So to me the OP comes from a deeper place in the body.

Did he talk about the punning in OP?

Plus the Elizabethans and Jacobeans didn't have the school system that developed later, in which accent was more of a class marker and less of a regional one, in other words, "received".