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1LolaWalser
Done on a symbolic date! A la Bastille!
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Marquis_de_Sade
Tag addition and general cleanup still in progress.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Marquis_de_Sade
Tag addition and general cleanup still in progress.
4LolaWalser
It was fun and educational! Even without corporeal punishment!
It is possible that more entries will be added in some not too distant future. I found a helper, but he ought to (must) publish first... whether I use him as a source or not.
It is possible that more entries will be added in some not too distant future. I found a helper, but he ought to (must) publish first... whether I use him as a source or not.
5timspalding
Great stuff.
What other "great Frenchmen" have we got going. I can see:
MarieAntoinette (finished)
VoltaireLibrary (in progress)
micheldemontaigne (in progress)
What other "great Frenchmen" have we got going. I can see:
MarieAntoinette (finished)
VoltaireLibrary (in progress)
micheldemontaigne (in progress)
6PhaedraB
I have no books in common with that famous Frenchman. Not sure if I should feel relieved or just aware of the fact that I'm not a Francophone.
7LolaWalser
Not even any authors in common? I'd wager more of those are likely to be shared than any specific title, especially as editions of the most common classics are so numerous and diverse.
8thorold
Fun to see that Marie Antoinette has the second-biggest overlap with Sade, and that he is now her top shared library (weighted listing). Obviously they had a lot in common...
I was surprised how little I share with the Marquis too - just Horace and Don Quixote, according to LT. But of course there's a lot more where I have an edition with a different combination of works or where I never catalogued a book I had as a school text or something a long time ago. Classical authors, Voltaire, Diderot, Fielding, Locke, Hume, etc.
I was expecting to see shelves and shelves of monk-nun porn, but there only seem to be a handful of volumes with titles like Vénus dans le cloître.
I was surprised how little I share with the Marquis too - just Horace and Don Quixote, according to LT. But of course there's a lot more where I have an edition with a different combination of works or where I never catalogued a book I had as a school text or something a long time ago. Classical authors, Voltaire, Diderot, Fielding, Locke, Hume, etc.
I was expecting to see shelves and shelves of monk-nun porn, but there only seem to be a handful of volumes with titles like Vénus dans le cloître.
9LolaWalser
Ha, Marie Antoinette and Sade used to be each other's numeros unos for the longest time (BFF!), but Voltaire demoted her on his list after the last batch.
monk-nun porn
Great tag. Well, there's also, recognisably from the titles, Vie voluptueuse entre les capucins et les nonnes, par la confession d'un frere de l'ordre, Les désirs du cloître, Thérèse philosophe, ou Mémoires pour servir à l'histoire du Père Dirrag et de Mlle Eradice--but even more within other "porn", for instance in La Fontaine's Contes et Nouvelles. Salacious stories about priests and nuns are almost de rigueur in 18th century erotica.
By the way, if you have the "Comments" enabled in your catalogue view, you'll discover an "Easter egg" in Le joujou des messieurs... (or search Google books to see the original quatrain I copied).
Regarding the integrity of Sade's library, the best thing about this list is that the second part is in his hand, meaning that we can be sure he was at least "cognizant" of all the books listed. But these are not all the books in his possession--only the ones that were in La Coste by the end of 1776. Just weeks later he would be arrested again, and incarcerated for thirteen years.
The books in libraries at Saumane, Mazan and Sade's apartment in Paris seemed to have been (finally) dispersed during this time, but even before his imprisonments, his father sold off the most valuable items, along with other property.
Then there are the books Sade requested while in prison (at times when he was allowed to do so). These can be partly reconstituted from letters, and that's mainly the possible next addition to the catalogue.
monk-nun porn
Great tag. Well, there's also, recognisably from the titles, Vie voluptueuse entre les capucins et les nonnes, par la confession d'un frere de l'ordre, Les désirs du cloître, Thérèse philosophe, ou Mémoires pour servir à l'histoire du Père Dirrag et de Mlle Eradice--but even more within other "porn", for instance in La Fontaine's Contes et Nouvelles. Salacious stories about priests and nuns are almost de rigueur in 18th century erotica.
By the way, if you have the "Comments" enabled in your catalogue view, you'll discover an "Easter egg" in Le joujou des messieurs... (or search Google books to see the original quatrain I copied).
Regarding the integrity of Sade's library, the best thing about this list is that the second part is in his hand, meaning that we can be sure he was at least "cognizant" of all the books listed. But these are not all the books in his possession--only the ones that were in La Coste by the end of 1776. Just weeks later he would be arrested again, and incarcerated for thirteen years.
The books in libraries at Saumane, Mazan and Sade's apartment in Paris seemed to have been (finally) dispersed during this time, but even before his imprisonments, his father sold off the most valuable items, along with other property.
Then there are the books Sade requested while in prison (at times when he was allowed to do so). These can be partly reconstituted from letters, and that's mainly the possible next addition to the catalogue.
10BuiltByBooks
This is pretty cool. Congrats!
11timspalding
Yeah, it's a righteous piece of work. Or unrighteous. Anyway, it's impressive.
How about Casanova? Surley his appallingly over-documented life includes a book list?
How about Casanova? Surley his appallingly over-documented life includes a book list?
14LolaWalser
>11 timspalding:
Interesting idea. He was such a vagabond, I expect building a list on the basis of references would be the only way to go. Surely somebody's already done it.
P.S. Looking around (no lists so far), I came across a rather long quotation where he compares the attractions of a woman to the attractions of a book. He's OWED a LL!
La femme est comme un livre qui bon ou mauvais doit commencer à plaire par le frontispice...
Goes on to explain that having had one's fill of the beautiful, one might want to branch out to the "ugly"/curious.
Interesting idea. He was such a vagabond, I expect building a list on the basis of references would be the only way to go. Surely somebody's already done it.
P.S. Looking around (no lists so far), I came across a rather long quotation where he compares the attractions of a woman to the attractions of a book. He's OWED a LL!
La femme est comme un livre qui bon ou mauvais doit commencer à plaire par le frontispice...
Goes on to explain that having had one's fill of the beautiful, one might want to branch out to the "ugly"/curious.
15Muscogulus
> 8, 9 monk-nun porn
If the marquis had lasted a little longer, he might have acquired a title that doubly fits that tag: The Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk
If the marquis had lasted a little longer, he might have acquired a title that doubly fits that tag: The Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk
16theoria
>15 Muscogulus: It may not be monk-nun porn exactly but Matthew Lewis' The Monk features a lusty monk (as far as I've read it).
17jburlinson
>7 LolaWalser: Not even any authors in common?
One author he and I do not have in common is the Marquis de Sade. Didn't he own any of his own writings?
One author he and I do not have in common is the Marquis de Sade. Didn't he own any of his own writings?
18LolaWalser
>17 jburlinson:
This list dates from 1776, much before the first publication of his notorious oeuvre, or anything book-length in other modalities (in which he was surprisingly prolific, to those who know him only by the half dozen porno-philosophical titles).
This list dates from 1776, much before the first publication of his notorious oeuvre, or anything book-length in other modalities (in which he was surprisingly prolific, to those who know him only by the half dozen porno-philosophical titles).
