2024 HistoryCat Planning Thread

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2024 HistoryCat Planning Thread

1Tess_W
Modifié : Nov 23, 2023, 9:06 pm

I have elected to start the thread, not necessarily host this topic. I did not suggest this topic. I read through the discussions but did not find who suggested it! If you want to organize/host this Cat, please be my guest. However, I will begin the discussion.

How do you want this organized? Broad topics or time periods?
Examples of broad topics:
epidemics, revolutions, independence movements, etc.

Examples of time periods:
ancient world, Great War, Medieval Ages, etc.

I have found in the past that if we leave the month up to the individual, they are usually wildly creative. I don't know that we need a prescribed topic for each month? Leave it up to the host?

Also, to be more inclusive, I think reads can be either fiction or non-fiction.

JAN: North & South American Wars & Conflicts; SillverWolf28
FEB: Georgian/Regency Britain; pamelad
MAR: Science & Medicine; librarycin
APR: Riots, Revolution, & Mayhem; Tess_W
MAY: Middle Ages; NinieB
JUN: Historians; MissWatson
JUL: Spies; christina_reads
AUG: Byzantine Empire; h-mb
SEP: WWI/WWII; JaymeCM
OCT: Disasters; KeithChaffee
NOV: Ancient & Classical History; susanna.fraser
DEC: Religions and Religious Festivals; MissBrangwen

2sallylou61
Nov 10, 2023, 11:05 am

I like the idea of broad topics.

3LibraryCin
Modifié : Nov 10, 2023, 1:26 pm

Thank you for starting this, Tess! I like broad topics, as well, and I will host a month (two, if need be).

ETA: I don't know that we need a prescribed topic for each month? Leave it up to the host?
Do you mean it would be more like RandomKIT where we don't know the theme ahead of time? How do we do this if we don't have a theme each month? I guess I'm just not understanding. Thanks!

4Tess_W
Nov 10, 2023, 1:51 pm

>3 LibraryCin: I meant, instead of the group coming up with the 12 topics/time periods, the host just chooses a historical time/topic.

5KeithChaffee
Nov 10, 2023, 1:54 pm

I had been assuming that was how it would work. Probably quicker to just let people volunteer for months/topics rather than try to come to consensus on twelve topics.

6LibraryCin
Modifié : Nov 10, 2023, 2:23 pm

Oh! I see. Thank you!

I don't think we need consensus, but I do like having a list to choose from (that's not to say others couldn't come up with something not on the list). That being said, I can probably come up with some historical topic that would work

ETA: I'll check previous years for ideas.

7pamelad
Modifié : Nov 10, 2023, 3:32 pm

The historical fiction challenge will run as well in 2024. I had suggested some broad topics for this CAT, but don't want to duplicate the challenge so have removed them.

Leaving it up to the host sounds reasonable. The last time we did this CAT, the planning was very complicated.

I would like to do Georgian and Regency Britain, if that works.

8JayneCM
Nov 10, 2023, 3:54 pm

I am happy to host a month - WWI and WWII.

9KeithChaffee
Nov 10, 2023, 4:12 pm

I'd like to take October, with the theme of disasters. Could be natural disasters (floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc.), medical epidemics, man-made disasters (Chernobyl, Triangle Shirtwaist Fire) -- lots to choose from.

10KeithChaffee
Modifié : Nov 18, 2023, 12:36 am

OK, so it looks like we're generally OK with hosts choosing an era/topic for each month, and we have the following volunteers so far:

JAN: North & South American Wars & Conflicts; SillverWolf28
FEB: Georgian/Regency Britain; pamelad
MAR: Science & Medicine; librarycin
APR: Riots, Revolution, & Mayhem; Tess_W
MAY: Middle Ages; NinieB
JUN: Historians; MissWatson
JUL: Spies; christina_reads
AUG: Byzantine Empire; h-mb
SEP: WWI/WWII; JaymeCM
OCT: Disasters; KeithChaffee
NOV: Ancient & Classical History; susanna.fraser
DEC: Religions and Religious Festivals; MissBrangwen

I'm happy to keep this post up-to-date as more volunteers raise their hands with topics.

11pamelad
Nov 10, 2023, 6:43 pm

>10 KeithChaffee: I'd like February.

12KeithChaffee
Nov 10, 2023, 6:47 pm

13JayneCM
Nov 10, 2023, 8:49 pm

>10 KeithChaffee: How about September? Thanks.

14KeithChaffee
Nov 10, 2023, 8:56 pm

>13 JayneCM: Got it!

15LibraryCin
Nov 10, 2023, 11:31 pm

Needed to look at previous years for ideas, but I have three topic ideas to decide between! Hmmmm...

16LibraryCin
Nov 10, 2023, 11:36 pm

But put me in for March. I'll choose a topic soon!

17KeithChaffee
Nov 11, 2023, 12:23 am

18Tess_W
Nov 11, 2023, 8:48 am

I will take April with Riots, Revolutions, and Mayhem

19NinieB
Nov 11, 2023, 2:02 pm

I'll do May with Middle Ages.

20KeithChaffee
Nov 11, 2023, 2:38 pm

April and May filled! That puts us halfway there.

21susanna.fraser
Nov 11, 2023, 7:24 pm

I'll take November with Ancient and Classical History.

22KeithChaffee
Nov 11, 2023, 8:38 pm

>21 susanna.fraser: On the list.

23SilverWolf28
Nov 11, 2023, 9:41 pm

I'll take January. I'm open to suggestions for the topic.

24KeithChaffee
Nov 12, 2023, 12:13 am

>23 SilverWolf28: January's yours!

25LibraryCin
Nov 12, 2023, 1:18 am

>23 SilverWolf28: I was going to check past HistoryCAT wikis for ideas. I haven't yet (and we'll see if I have time for it before all the months are snatched up or not!). Have had a busy week and that continues through tomorrow!

26Robertgreaves
Nov 12, 2023, 5:06 am

For those looking for a topic, how about Saints & Sinners (I'm not really interested in hosting next year)?

Non-fiction could be history of religion while fiction could have a Biblical character or the Buddha, or a priest/monk/nun or other religious figure as an important character.

27Tess_W
Nov 12, 2023, 2:20 pm

>26 Robertgreaves: Good one, Robert!

28h-mb
Nov 13, 2023, 1:21 pm

I'll take August with a theme around Byzance/Constantinople/Istamboul and the successive empires.

29MissBrangwen
Modifié : Nov 13, 2023, 1:46 pm

I can take December with the theme that Robert has proposed in >26 Robertgreaves: ! Although I might adapt it a bit and give it another title, so it is "religious theme - tbd" at the moment.

Is that ok for you, Robert?

30KeithChaffee
Nov 13, 2023, 2:25 pm

August and December added to the list!

31Robertgreaves
Nov 13, 2023, 5:12 pm

>29 MissBrangwen: Sure. It's yours now. Run with it any way you want

32christina_reads
Nov 13, 2023, 5:52 pm

I'd be happy to host Spies in July -- theme of espionage, could be any location or time period in history. Unless that is perhaps too narrow?

33KeithChaffee
Nov 13, 2023, 6:08 pm

Sounds fine to me. You're on the list!

34MissWatson
Nov 14, 2023, 3:38 am

I could take June, with a temptative theme of historians: archaelogists who discover the ruins of long-forgotten peoples, biographies of famous historians etc? This offers both fiction and non-fiction options.

35KeithChaffee
Nov 14, 2023, 3:52 am

June is yours, which fills the year!

36MissBrangwen
Nov 14, 2023, 4:00 am

>34 MissWatson: I think that‘s a very good one!

37MissBrangwen
Nov 14, 2023, 2:25 pm

I have given it some thought and will call my theme "Religions and religious festivals". This would enable readers to choose nonfiction books and novels about festivals like Christmas or Hanukkah in addition to the topics that were mentioned in >26 Robertgreaves:.

38KeithChaffee
Nov 14, 2023, 2:37 pm

List edited accordingly, which means the only remaining gaps are the TBDs in January and March. (Not trying to pressure those hosts; take all the time you need to consider your options.)

39LibraryCin
Modifié : Nov 14, 2023, 4:15 pm

>38 KeithChaffee: My life has been way too busy, so I have yet to look at previous themes. I hope to get to it by (or on) this upcoming weekend!

40JayneCM
Nov 14, 2023, 6:53 pm

I had thought of another theme, if anyone cares to use it.
Leaders Through Time. Not just political leaders; leaders of industry; religious leaders; leaders of civil rights, environmental, land rights, women's rights etc; leaders in a particular field - medicine, scientific endeavours, arts, etc.

41SilverWolf28
Modifié : Nov 15, 2023, 9:19 pm

My topic will be American Wars and Conflicts. You could read about the Spanish conquest, the American Revolution, the Civil War or battles between the Europeans and the Native Americans for example. Even though we've been involved in wars on other continents I wasn't planning on including them.

42beccac220
Nov 15, 2023, 7:23 pm

Do you guys think Dead Wake: The Last Crossing of the Lusitania by Eric Larson would qualify for January?

43KeithChaffee
Nov 15, 2023, 7:47 pm

I am still a relative newcomer to the Challenges, but my attitude is generally "if it's close enough for you, it's close enough." I tend to be an "interpret things narrowly" kinda guy, so an event that didn't involve the US, and that took place before the US joined the war, would probably be too big a stretch for me to squeeze into an American Wars theme.

But ultimately, there are no rules beyond individual judgment. It's not like there's a judge waiting to hit the "FOUL" buzzer if you get it "wrong."

44beccac220
Nov 15, 2023, 7:59 pm

>43 KeithChaffee: I hear ya. I wasn't sure how strict the interpretations were for the group. I had to ask, so that means it's not close enough for me for it to fit (in good conscience, anyway.) I'll just have to pocket that book for another day! (Thanks for the response. I'm still feeling things out.)

45Robertgreaves
Nov 15, 2023, 8:11 pm

>42 beccac220: >43 KeithChaffee: I think most hosts are happy to accept fairly loose interpretations of the theme. I do sometimes ask first, but as often as not it's because I'm not sure whether the book will fit until I've read it.

46KeithChaffee
Nov 15, 2023, 8:25 pm

>44 beccac220: Oh, gosh! I didn't mean to imply (and hope I didn't) that my own tendency to interpret rules strictly should guide anyone else. I mean, yeah, I've helped to organize this year a little bit, but it's not MY HistoryCAT to interpret, nor is any individual month mine. You do you.

47SilverWolf28
Nov 15, 2023, 9:13 pm

>42 beccac220: I think it would fit better in September. I'll update my last post to better reflect what I was thinking.

48KeithChaffee
Nov 16, 2023, 12:42 am

>47 SilverWolf28: So if I understand correctly, you're thinking of a focus specifically on conflict that took place IN what is now the USA?

49Robertgreaves
Modifié : Nov 16, 2023, 2:22 am

>47 SilverWolf28: >48 KeithChaffee: Oh, Spanish conquests threw me off. I was thinking Aztecs and Incas as well as the US.

50KeithChaffee
Nov 16, 2023, 3:49 am

Oops, missed that. So, conflict within the Americas?

51beccac220
Nov 16, 2023, 12:02 pm

>46 KeithChaffee: No worries! I didn't take it that way. Just needed a little more clarification. ;-)

52SilverWolf28
Modifié : Nov 16, 2023, 9:08 pm

>48 KeithChaffee:; >49 Robertgreaves: Yes I had just been thinking of North America. Though I would be fine with expanding it to Central and South America.

53SilverWolf28
Nov 16, 2023, 9:10 pm

>10 KeithChaffee: We could rename my topic North and South American Wars and Conflicts.

54KeithChaffee
Nov 17, 2023, 12:46 am

Done!

55LibraryCin
Nov 17, 2023, 10:14 pm

Hi, so for March I'd like to do:
Science & Medicine

Thanks!

56KeithChaffee
Nov 18, 2023, 12:37 am

And that completes our year of topics!

Tess, would you mind copying the list from my post #10 into your post #1, so that people will be able to find it more easily as the year goes along? Thanks!

57JayneCM
Nov 18, 2023, 4:16 am

Fantastic! Looking forward to lots of recommendations from this CAT.

58Tess_W
Nov 23, 2023, 9:05 pm

59SilverWolf28
Déc 11, 2023, 6:41 pm

Is there a wiki?

60KeithChaffee
Déc 11, 2023, 6:49 pm

Not yet. Does somebody know how to create one?

61LibraryCin
Modifié : Déc 12, 2023, 11:53 am

>60 KeithChaffee: I can do it later tonight unless someone else has time to do it sooner.

62LibraryCin
Déc 12, 2023, 10:17 pm

63pamelad
Déc 12, 2023, 11:59 pm

>62 LibraryCin: Thank you!

64KeithChaffee
Déc 13, 2023, 12:00 am

>1 Tess_W: Tess, would you mind copying the link to the wiki from post #62 into post #1 so that it can easily be found at the top of the thread? Thanks!

65SilverWolf28
Déc 13, 2023, 7:24 am

66LibraryCin
Déc 13, 2023, 12:55 pm

No worries!

67beccac220
Déc 14, 2023, 7:27 pm

I've got my pick for January and ready to get started!

68SilverWolf28
Déc 14, 2023, 10:22 pm

I should have the thread up sometime this weekend. I'd planned to have it up yesterday or today, but I'm dealing with a lot of trouble with my Mom's health insurance right now.

69beccac220
Déc 15, 2023, 8:50 am

>68 SilverWolf28: No hurry! Insurance is always so much fun - NOT! Hope it all gets settled soon with very little hassle.

70SilverWolf28
Déc 17, 2023, 6:23 pm

Here's January's HistoryCAT: https://www.librarything.com/topic/355971

71pamelad
Jan 12, 5:12 pm

74NinieB
Avr 15, 2:54 pm

The May thread on the Middle Ages has been posted.