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1BuiltByBooks
I've taken over finishing the Joyce Legacy Library from rfb. Using the initial 153 entries as the foundation, I added the entries held by the Harry Ransom Center under 'Joyce Trieste Library' and the books identified from that library in Ellmann, Richard. The Consciousness of Joyce, catalogued online. Joyce was a consistent annotator in his books, often leaving markings for use in his own writings, but unfortunately neither catalogue goes into great detail. For that I've made a library request for Gillespie, Michael Patrick Inverted Volumes Improperly Arranged: James Joyce and His Trieste Library so that should fill in the blanks. Otherwise, James Joyce's Trieste library is more or less complete. Next on the list will be works identified from his time spent in Paris.
The books catalogued in the HRC also contain titles that indicate Joyce as a previous owner but were not present with him in Italy. These are entirely made up from his own works which were given to him by the respective publishers and which he gave on as gifts. I've added these to the library but all are clearly marked as presentation copies.
Overall, I'm finding the amount off Irish literature he read really interesting, especially from his contemporaries whilst outside of the country.
The books catalogued in the HRC also contain titles that indicate Joyce as a previous owner but were not present with him in Italy. These are entirely made up from his own works which were given to him by the respective publishers and which he gave on as gifts. I've added these to the library but all are clearly marked as presentation copies.
Overall, I'm finding the amount off Irish literature he read really interesting, especially from his contemporaries whilst outside of the country.
2moibibliomaniac
Great job!
I have vols 2 &3 of the Letters of James Joyce edited by Richard Erdmann and can mine them for tidbits about books Joyce received after I finish reading two other books.
e.g.: You list Gerhart Hauptmann's book, Michael Kramer, but it is a signed copy, thanks to Ezra Pound.
In a letter to Pound dated 9 February 1938, Joyce mentions that he was writing to Hauptmann to thank him. In a footnote Erdmann writes:
"Joyce was aware that Ezra Pound and Gerhart Hauptmann lived near each other in Rapallo. In a letter of 12 November 1937 (Letters, ed. Gilbert, p.398) he asked Pound to help him obtain Hauptmann's signature on a copy of Michael Kramer, one of the two plays by Hauptmann that he had attempted to translate in his youth. Pound agreed on 8 December 1937, 'Send the bloody book here, and when his nibs gets here I will lay it on the café table before him and say the grreat Jayzus James the Joyce in excelsis, rejoice in excelsis, wants the Xmas angels to sign it.' The Letters of Ezra Pound, ed. Paige, p.300."
best,
moibibliomaniac
I have vols 2 &3 of the Letters of James Joyce edited by Richard Erdmann and can mine them for tidbits about books Joyce received after I finish reading two other books.
e.g.: You list Gerhart Hauptmann's book, Michael Kramer, but it is a signed copy, thanks to Ezra Pound.
In a letter to Pound dated 9 February 1938, Joyce mentions that he was writing to Hauptmann to thank him. In a footnote Erdmann writes:
"Joyce was aware that Ezra Pound and Gerhart Hauptmann lived near each other in Rapallo. In a letter of 12 November 1937 (Letters, ed. Gilbert, p.398) he asked Pound to help him obtain Hauptmann's signature on a copy of Michael Kramer, one of the two plays by Hauptmann that he had attempted to translate in his youth. Pound agreed on 8 December 1937, 'Send the bloody book here, and when his nibs gets here I will lay it on the café table before him and say the grreat Jayzus James the Joyce in excelsis, rejoice in excelsis, wants the Xmas angels to sign it.' The Letters of Ezra Pound, ed. Paige, p.300."
best,
moibibliomaniac
3BuiltByBooks
That's fantastic! I'm hoping to gather as many details as possible by the end, in regards to the signatures and inscriptions, and then perhaps find the corresponding titles in special collections to make a comparison.
Michael Kramer was a publication gathered from Ellman's The Consciousness of Joyce so there's not even a mention as to which publication is was. Any details you can find in his letters would be great.
The original legacy library LTer had the intention of cataloging Joyce's books with a tag to identify if they were used as a consulting texts for his own works. I'd love to attempt that, but at the moment I've just too little information. However, the good part about being situated near Dublin is that I have every possible Joyce publication at my fingertips. It's just a matter of time.
Michael Kramer was a publication gathered from Ellman's The Consciousness of Joyce so there's not even a mention as to which publication is was. Any details you can find in his letters would be great.
The original legacy library LTer had the intention of cataloging Joyce's books with a tag to identify if they were used as a consulting texts for his own works. I'd love to attempt that, but at the moment I've just too little information. However, the good part about being situated near Dublin is that I have every possible Joyce publication at my fingertips. It's just a matter of time.
4BuiltByBooks
Jamce Joyce's legacy library is now complete.
I've been able to catalogue both his Trieste and Paris library from extant copies held in the Harry Ransom Center and the Lockwood Memorial Library. The details for the works he acquired in Zurich come from his biographer Richard Ellmann, but which are also now held at the Harry Ransom Center as part of their Trieste collection. The books Joyce read in Dublin were a little bit more difficult too find. Some come from university libraries whilst others are privately owned, but can be distinguished by their inscriptions. The tags also reflect which library the work is associated with. A full list of sources are on the legacy profile, but I've a few more catalogues to read through and will add once finished.
I've copied over all the inscriptions and signatures for each title where possible in the comments section, and as language was an important factor for Joyce, I've made that a permanent colum which I wouldn't usually. Joyce also had an unusual system of marking his books, using a series of dots. I'll add a piece on that to bio soon.
I've also included in the About My Library section a link to all the major James Joyce collections held by libraries worldwide. They include links to his original manuscripts, his notebooks, his photograph collection and his letters. Princeton University Library houses the personal papers of Sylvia Beach which also includes the business correspondence for the publishing of Ulysses.
As an aside, I thought it might be interesting to attempt a catalogue of all the first edition copies of Ulysses published by Shakespeare and Company in 1922. There were only 1,000 copies published and so far I've found 47 of them. Each copy was purchased by someone with a personal or literary connection to Joyce so it'll make for an interesting read once complete.
Unfortunately the library can't really be marked as complete. In 1939 Joyce parted with over 2,000 books in a forced effort to downsize his colllection. There's no record of the books he parted with. I was able to find seven books in the Beinecke Library which were inscribed by Joyce and had to have come from the Paris collection he sold off. I've a long way to go with that one.
Otherwise, another library off the list =)
I've been able to catalogue both his Trieste and Paris library from extant copies held in the Harry Ransom Center and the Lockwood Memorial Library. The details for the works he acquired in Zurich come from his biographer Richard Ellmann, but which are also now held at the Harry Ransom Center as part of their Trieste collection. The books Joyce read in Dublin were a little bit more difficult too find. Some come from university libraries whilst others are privately owned, but can be distinguished by their inscriptions. The tags also reflect which library the work is associated with. A full list of sources are on the legacy profile, but I've a few more catalogues to read through and will add once finished.
I've copied over all the inscriptions and signatures for each title where possible in the comments section, and as language was an important factor for Joyce, I've made that a permanent colum which I wouldn't usually. Joyce also had an unusual system of marking his books, using a series of dots. I'll add a piece on that to bio soon.
I've also included in the About My Library section a link to all the major James Joyce collections held by libraries worldwide. They include links to his original manuscripts, his notebooks, his photograph collection and his letters. Princeton University Library houses the personal papers of Sylvia Beach which also includes the business correspondence for the publishing of Ulysses.
As an aside, I thought it might be interesting to attempt a catalogue of all the first edition copies of Ulysses published by Shakespeare and Company in 1922. There were only 1,000 copies published and so far I've found 47 of them. Each copy was purchased by someone with a personal or literary connection to Joyce so it'll make for an interesting read once complete.
Unfortunately the library can't really be marked as complete. In 1939 Joyce parted with over 2,000 books in a forced effort to downsize his colllection. There's no record of the books he parted with. I was able to find seven books in the Beinecke Library which were inscribed by Joyce and had to have come from the Paris collection he sold off. I've a long way to go with that one.
Otherwise, another library off the list =)
6PhaedraB
We're having trouble with the Joyce library in the Recently uploaded covers feed. It's showing a separate cover of that last, limited edition of Ulysses over and over, each time saying the cover has been used "1 time." Did you upload the same cover image multiple times, or is it a glitch in the system?
7BuiltByBooks
Sorry PhaedraB, that's not a glitch, just my own stupidy. There was no way I could tell to mass edit covers as I wouldn't think it's encountered enough, so I added them individually, not thinking to check the members uploads.
If it helps, I did vote yes to Brightcopy's suggestion of grouping covers. Fingers crossed!
If it helps, I did vote yes to Brightcopy's suggestion of grouping covers. Fingers crossed!
8JerryMmm
if nobody uses a cover, it's supposed to disappear after a while.
Can you explain what your mean by your post?
Can you explain what your mean by your post?
9PhaedraB
7, 8 >
Well, in theory it's much faster to select the same cover repeatedly than it is to upload it over and over, but the problem may be a lag between when a cover is uploaded and when it appears on the cover page for books other than the exact one for which it was uploaded.
In other words, if I have two copies of That Book, I'll see the cover on the cover page when I upload the cover to copy number one of That Book, but if I go immediately to the work page for copy number two and try to use the new cover, I won't see it. It might take a day or two. Unfortunately, that lag doesn't seem to apply to the Recent covers feed.
What you could do is wait a day or two, then select the same cover for each of the copies. Then the unused duplicates should fade away, eventually.
Well, in theory it's much faster to select the same cover repeatedly than it is to upload it over and over, but the problem may be a lag between when a cover is uploaded and when it appears on the cover page for books other than the exact one for which it was uploaded.
In other words, if I have two copies of That Book, I'll see the cover on the cover page when I upload the cover to copy number one of That Book, but if I go immediately to the work page for copy number two and try to use the new cover, I won't see it. It might take a day or two. Unfortunately, that lag doesn't seem to apply to the Recent covers feed.
What you could do is wait a day or two, then select the same cover for each of the copies. Then the unused duplicates should fade away, eventually.
10BuiltByBooks
8 > I've reverted all those books back to the default cover so like you said, the covers should disappear eventually. I'll take better care when changing them next time.
11PhaedraB
Thanks. You don't really need to use just the default cover, just use the same one over and over once you are able to do so.
We can all learn from each other :-)
We can all learn from each other :-)
12BuiltByBooks
I've edited this library just a smidgeon (what a great word!). Common sense prevailed and I've removed the presentation copies. They weren't part of Joyce's library after all. I've also removed the first edition of Ulysses on similiar reasons. Since I've saved all the information I may link it up with blog postings later. It's still pretty interesting material.
In terms of new additions, I've gone through more catalogues, biographies and school syllabi, and pieced together more titles from Joyce's early reading in Dublin along with some books he may have owned but certainly read whilst in first year of university.
Incredibly, I've also found references to 40 - 60 titles from his Paris library. Only 1900-ish to go.
Lastly, I've cleaned up the profile and library information. I didn't think there was such a need for quite a detailed biography so I've snipped that down to two short and sweet sentences, whilst expanding the library history. It doesn't look so daunting now.
In terms of new additions, I've gone through more catalogues, biographies and school syllabi, and pieced together more titles from Joyce's early reading in Dublin along with some books he may have owned but certainly read whilst in first year of university.
Incredibly, I've also found references to 40 - 60 titles from his Paris library. Only 1900-ish to go.
Lastly, I've cleaned up the profile and library information. I didn't think there was such a need for quite a detailed biography so I've snipped that down to two short and sweet sentences, whilst expanding the library history. It doesn't look so daunting now.
13elenchus
I didn't see your promised bit on the "dot system" Joyce used, either on the Profile page or the Legacy Profile: did I miss it?
You've been busy, Colm, with these Legacy Libraries. Perhaps I'm jostling unnecessarily, I'll step away and try to be patient ....
You've been busy, Colm, with these Legacy Libraries. Perhaps I'm jostling unnecessarily, I'll step away and try to be patient ....
14JamesJoyceLibrary
Ha, no your right. I had great ambitions to write that, but I just got distracted with another repository.
A little known fact is that whenever Joyce moved apartments in Paris, or if he moved the family into a hotel for a long stay (which he did several times), he placed his personal belongings in storage. But he also left some of his current reading material and papers in boxes at Beach's Shakespeare and Company. I've just been going through her Princeton papers and found more titles from his Paris library in there. Books he left behind.
I'll finish it all either today or tomorrow morning. Scouts honour!
Edit: Wrong account.
A little known fact is that whenever Joyce moved apartments in Paris, or if he moved the family into a hotel for a long stay (which he did several times), he placed his personal belongings in storage. But he also left some of his current reading material and papers in boxes at Beach's Shakespeare and Company. I've just been going through her Princeton papers and found more titles from his Paris library in there. Books he left behind.
I'll finish it all either today or tomorrow morning. Scouts honour!
Edit: Wrong account.
15BuiltByBooks
I've included a small description under Marginalia for that elenchus. It's the general idea without any examples as the image used I'm sure is copyrighted. The article (with image) referenced can be found on Jstor though so people should be able to find it easily enough.
I always considered writing in books an act of vandalism, but it seems like quite a clean way of doing it.
I always considered writing in books an act of vandalism, but it seems like quite a clean way of doing it.
16Nicole_VanK
I always considered writing in books an act of vandalism
Well, before they advent of printing they had little choice ;-)
Well, before they advent of printing they had little choice ;-)
17elenchus
It sounds like a fascinating approach, I hope to look up the article with images. The creative process is intriguing to me, generally, and especially when someone has an idiosyncratic but consistent process for aiding in their work.
18BuiltByBooks
16 - Matt, Maybe that's what inspired Guttenberg :)
17 - Definitely. I'm not sure if it's a general interest you have or more specifically Irish, but there was a new publication released recently from Cambridge University Press, Samuel Beckett's Library, offering readers a first glimpse at Beckett's Paris library, inscriptions, annotations and marginalia included. It sounds fascinating. I haven't gotten a copy yet though.
17 - Definitely. I'm not sure if it's a general interest you have or more specifically Irish, but there was a new publication released recently from Cambridge University Press, Samuel Beckett's Library, offering readers a first glimpse at Beckett's Paris library, inscriptions, annotations and marginalia included. It sounds fascinating. I haven't gotten a copy yet though.
19ArthurRansome
12 - Common sense prevailed and I've removed the presentation copies.
Sorry to be dull, but is this something specific to do with the presentation copies in JJ's library, or is there an antipathy towards presentation copies in LLs generally? What's the thinking behind your decision?
Presentation copies are currently running at 15% of AR's library, so this is a matter of some concern.
Sorry to be dull, but is this something specific to do with the presentation copies in JJ's library, or is there an antipathy towards presentation copies in LLs generally? What's the thinking behind your decision?
Presentation copies are currently running at 15% of AR's library, so this is a matter of some concern.
20jbd1
>19 ArthurRansome: - The Joyce ones were presentation copies of Joyce's book(s?) from him to others, not from others to Joyce (so, books Joyce gave away, rather than owned himself).
