2GusLogan
>1 maisiedotes:
Same to you, thanks!
I’ve started this Year of Buying No More Books by ordering two LECs: Death in Venice and Billy Budd/Benito Cereno. I’m sure that’s it for the year.
Same to you, thanks!
I’ve started this Year of Buying No More Books by ordering two LECs: Death in Venice and Billy Budd/Benito Cereno. I’m sure that’s it for the year.
3GardenOfForkingPaths
>1 maisiedotes: >2 GusLogan: Happy New Year!
>2 GusLogan: Breaking the New Year's No More Books resolution as early as possible. I like it. Nice acquisitions.
I just received a copy of the LEC Metamorphosis (1984) after a 2 month journey to the UK. The binding is a bit drab compared with earlier LECs but it feels like a very solid and well made book. It came in the original shipping box (with the Gray Parrot Bindery stamp on the front), which was fun to see and experience.
>2 GusLogan: Breaking the New Year's No More Books resolution as early as possible. I like it. Nice acquisitions.
I just received a copy of the LEC Metamorphosis (1984) after a 2 month journey to the UK. The binding is a bit drab compared with earlier LECs but it feels like a very solid and well made book. It came in the original shipping box (with the Gray Parrot Bindery stamp on the front), which was fun to see and experience.
4Lukas1990
Happy New Year!
I've received my Time Machine/War of the Worlds tonight at 9 PM! When the mailman gave me the package I imediately noticed how poorly the books were packaged and started hyperventilating. The slipcase was bubble-wrapped once and put in a tight box which looked damaged. However, I was saved by George Macy's ghost and even though the slipcase received a bump on the corner, both books are fine! There is some space between the top of the books and the top of the slipcase which may have prevented the worst. Shipping books from US to Europe is a pain.
Here it is, in a lovely company of Jan Van Krimpen's Psalms.
I've received my Time Machine/War of the Worlds tonight at 9 PM! When the mailman gave me the package I imediately noticed how poorly the books were packaged and started hyperventilating. The slipcase was bubble-wrapped once and put in a tight box which looked damaged. However, I was saved by George Macy's ghost and even though the slipcase received a bump on the corner, both books are fine! There is some space between the top of the books and the top of the slipcase which may have prevented the worst. Shipping books from US to Europe is a pain.
Here it is, in a lovely company of Jan Van Krimpen's Psalms.
5bacchus.
Waiting for Confessions of an English Opium-Reader, Brave New World and The Possessed. A relatively disconnected selection, but excited to receive all 3.
6GusLogan
>5 bacchus.:
That’s a Freudian slip if I ever saw one! (An amazing book, congratulations!)
That’s a Freudian slip if I ever saw one! (An amazing book, congratulations!)
7bacchus.
>6 GusLogan: Oh wow, my subconscious has certainly started the year on a dark note - I’ll make sure to keep an eye within :) If worse comes to worst I’ll take it on a soma trip.
8jpinomaha
I just picked up a great copy of Wilhelm Meister's Apprenticeship by J.W von Goethe and completed my collection of The Evergreen Tales that contains Jeseph and His Brothers, The Story of Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp and The Three Bears.
9Iggybedora
I just started collecting and am addicted! Just got Sea Wolf, Camille (Laurencin), Notorious Jumping Frog & stories, Heart of Darkness, and Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
10GusLogan
>9 Iggybedora:
Welcome!
Welcome!
11maisiedotes
>9 Iggybedora: Enjoy the journey!
12Glacierman
>9 Iggybedora: You have been turned to the Dark Side! Welcome to the crew!
13Iggybedora
Can anyone tell me what the material of the cover binding is of LEC The Man in the Iron Mask? It feels like maybe coated cloth?
14Glacierman
>13 Iggybedora: The LEC bibliography describes it as "silk finished cloth," whatever that may be.
15mr.philistine
>14 Glacierman: A surface or colour with a silk finish falls between the dull, non-shiny finish of matt materials and the bright and shiny finish of gloss materials.
Source: https://www.labelplanet.co.uk/glossary/silk-finish/
It is non-shiny and shiny at once! So if finished with precision by a master, it would have the effect of destructive interference in wave theory. :)
Source: https://www.labelplanet.co.uk/glossary/silk-finish/
It is non-shiny and shiny at once! So if finished with precision by a master, it would have the effect of destructive interference in wave theory. :)
16Glacierman
On the way is a nice copy of the LEC edition of Stevenson's The Beach of Falesá obtained at a very, very reasonable price.
I look forward to reading it.
I look forward to reading it.
17booksforreading
>16 Glacierman:
A very beautiful edition. Congratulations!
A very beautiful edition. Congratulations!
19dprendergast
In the process of building a "robust" HP collection. Added the following this month (all New York imprints).
Leaves of Grass
The Trial and Death of Socrates
Ferdinand and Isabella
The Master of Ballantrae
The Song Celestial (Bhagavad Gita)
Tartuffe / The Would-Be Gentleman
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
Kenilworth
The Birds / The Frogs
Tales of the Gold Rush
Tales of Guy de Maupassant
Lives of the Most Eminent Painters
The Satyricon of Petronius
The Spy: A Tale of the Neutral Ground
I don't look for (or keep) the slipcases, which helps.
Leaves of Grass
The Trial and Death of Socrates
Ferdinand and Isabella
The Master of Ballantrae
The Song Celestial (Bhagavad Gita)
Tartuffe / The Would-Be Gentleman
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
Kenilworth
The Birds / The Frogs
Tales of the Gold Rush
Tales of Guy de Maupassant
Lives of the Most Eminent Painters
The Satyricon of Petronius
The Spy: A Tale of the Neutral Ground
I don't look for (or keep) the slipcases, which helps.
20maisiedotes
>19 dprendergast: WOW! You must have found someone's secret stash.
I have an HP collection but few of the titles you named. Though I don't own Ferdinand and Isabella, I think it's beautiful.
Which ones are your favorites?
I have an HP collection but few of the titles you named. Though I don't own Ferdinand and Isabella, I think it's beautiful.
Which ones are your favorites?
21dprendergast
I can readily tell you favorite bindings, favorite illustrators, favorite authors/books. There are probably only a few that combine all of these (plus paper, type, size). THAT is a perfect book - a book I love to read that is beautifully produced in every respect. Three that come to mind: Salome, Beowulf, The Martian Chronicles.
But there are many where I love the binding (Journal of the Plague Year, Cape Cod, Penguin Island, etc.) or the illustrations (Fritz Eichenberg, Lynd Ward, Agnes Miller Parker, etc.). Not to forget the book itself (Boswell's Life of Johnson, Swann's Way, All Quiet on the Western Front, The Cloister and the Hearth, just about anything by Dickens, etc.).
And some (hopefully many) gems await, as I have probably only read about 1/2 of the 140 that I currently have.
Agreed about Ferdinand and Isabella - I bought it almost entirely because of the binding and illustrations. It's a lovely book. Same for The Trial of Socrates.
But there are many where I love the binding (Journal of the Plague Year, Cape Cod, Penguin Island, etc.) or the illustrations (Fritz Eichenberg, Lynd Ward, Agnes Miller Parker, etc.). Not to forget the book itself (Boswell's Life of Johnson, Swann's Way, All Quiet on the Western Front, The Cloister and the Hearth, just about anything by Dickens, etc.).
And some (hopefully many) gems await, as I have probably only read about 1/2 of the 140 that I currently have.
Agreed about Ferdinand and Isabella - I bought it almost entirely because of the binding and illustrations. It's a lovely book. Same for The Trial of Socrates.
22GusLogan
I picked up The House of the Dead and am now close enough to owning all Eichenberg-illustrated LECs that I may actually go for it…
23dprendergast
>22 GusLogan: Do you have the Bronte pair he did for Random House? One of my all-time favorite book designs.
24kermaier
>23 dprendergast:
Moving the goalposts like that is just mean…. ;-)
Moving the goalposts like that is just mean…. ;-)
25WildcatJF
The Random House Bronte set with Eichenberg's masterful woodcuts are one of my prides and joys of my collection. It's a bit of a shame Anne didn't get a matching volume, but she tends to be the one left out of these things.
26GusLogan
>23 dprendergast: I’ve certainly considered it!
27dprendergast
It's so great that he depicted all the girls on the cover image of "Jane Eyre" with downcast eyes, EXCEPT ONE.
28Eumnestes
Over the past several months I been collecting books in the "Poems of ..." series that LEC did in the late 1960s and early 1970s. I have editions of Blake, Wordsworth, Shelley, Keats, Browning, and Tennyson. (I believe LEC also did a Shakespeare and a Burns in this series, but I don't have those).
They are not an extravagantly luxurious set, but they are nonetheless excellent in their modest way. Each is quarter leather of varying colors with the title stamped on a label on the spine, and an effigy of the author embossed in black on the cover. They look gorgeous together on the shelf.
A few of them have noteworthy illustrations. The Blake images are rather familiar, at this point, but in this edition they are tipped in color plates, and so especially vivid. The color plates for the Wordsworth and Keats are very attractive. The Donne, although without color, has ingenious ornamentation on its pages (see a recent review of this book from abysswalker: https://www.librarything.com/topic/332216).
LEC went to some pains to have qualified academics in the field make the selections for these volumes, and the choices and layouts are outstanding, I think. Several of them have notes, but they are unobtrusive and almost always helpful.
On a side note, Easton Press did reproductions of most of these (I own a few), and, although the offset printing is not quite as sharp as the letterpress, they are rather good copies. In some cases EP even redoes the illustrations with new color choices.
They are not an extravagantly luxurious set, but they are nonetheless excellent in their modest way. Each is quarter leather of varying colors with the title stamped on a label on the spine, and an effigy of the author embossed in black on the cover. They look gorgeous together on the shelf.
A few of them have noteworthy illustrations. The Blake images are rather familiar, at this point, but in this edition they are tipped in color plates, and so especially vivid. The color plates for the Wordsworth and Keats are very attractive. The Donne, although without color, has ingenious ornamentation on its pages (see a recent review of this book from abysswalker: https://www.librarything.com/topic/332216).
LEC went to some pains to have qualified academics in the field make the selections for these volumes, and the choices and layouts are outstanding, I think. Several of them have notes, but they are unobtrusive and almost always helpful.
On a side note, Easton Press did reproductions of most of these (I own a few), and, although the offset printing is not quite as sharp as the letterpress, they are rather good copies. In some cases EP even redoes the illustrations with new color choices.
29mr.philistine
>28 Eumnestes: ...the "Poems of ..." series that LEC did...
The American Poets series and the British Poets series.
The American Poets series and the British Poets series.
30literatefool
>19 dprendergast: Great group! A few that I haven't found in the wild very often too. Congratulations!
31booksforreading
American poets series are fully bound in leather, feature scholarly introductions and beautiful original illustrations, and nicely printed.
An outstanding value!
An outstanding value!
32Iggybedora
>23 dprendergast: I have this edition. My only gripe is that the paper quality could be better but the illustrations are beautiful.
33Eumnestes
>31 booksforreading: I've seen pictures of the LEC Whitman and Dickinson, but did not realize that they were part of a series. Do the books in this series share a recognizable template (cover design, title arrangement, etc.) like the British poet books share?
34maisiedotes
>21 dprendergast: "Agreed about Ferdinand and Isabella - I bought it almost entirely because of the binding and illustrations. . . . Same for The Trial of Socrates."
Now I want them.
Now I want them.
35booksforreading
>33 Eumnestes:
Yes. They all have uniform designs, though the colors of bindings can vary from one title to another.
Yes. They all have uniform designs, though the colors of bindings can vary from one title to another.
36Django6924
The American Poets: This started, in May 1943, as one of the Heritage Press exclusives, with the Poems of Longfellow illustrated by Boyd Hanna (who illustrated a famous edition of Leaves of Grass for the Peter Pauper Press (paupers can't afford this edition today!). The poems in the series were chosen, fittingly enough, by American poet/translater Louis Untermeyer. The series binding was plain beige cloth, with red and blue designs on the spine typical of the colonial period, and Warren Chappell designed the initial binding and the subsequent volumes essentially did variations on the spine decorations.
The later poets in the series were: Poe, Whittier, Emerson, Bryant, and Dickinson, each with an artist chosen to match the sensibilities of the poet. Note that these are all 19th century poets. Starting, I believe, with John Greenleaf Whittier, a Limited Editions Club edition was published with unique Limited Editions Club bindings, followed by, or simultaneous with, the HP American Poets edition.
Missing? The 800 lb. gorilla of American poets, Walt Whitman, who was given a unique HP treatment with illustrations by Rockwell Kent.
I find these HP "The American Poets" volumes to be one of their finest productions, and I have never replaced the ones which were available as LECs with their pricier counterparts.
The later poets in the series were: Poe, Whittier, Emerson, Bryant, and Dickinson, each with an artist chosen to match the sensibilities of the poet. Note that these are all 19th century poets. Starting, I believe, with John Greenleaf Whittier, a Limited Editions Club edition was published with unique Limited Editions Club bindings, followed by, or simultaneous with, the HP American Poets edition.
Missing? The 800 lb. gorilla of American poets, Walt Whitman, who was given a unique HP treatment with illustrations by Rockwell Kent.
I find these HP "The American Poets" volumes to be one of their finest productions, and I have never replaced the ones which were available as LECs with their pricier counterparts.
37booksforreading
>36 Django6924:
Thank you very much for this information!
Thank you very much for this information!
38Eumnestes
>36 Django6924: Thank you. I imagine in that case that the images I saw were HP books rather than LECs.
39GardenOfForkingPaths
I received a nice copy of Childhood, Boyhood, Youth (1972) to add to the LEC Tolstoy collection. I'm really impressed with the LEC's treatment of these Tolstoy titles. It feels like a great achievement of the Club to have produced four lovely editions in four different decades.
One day, I'd like to own the 1933 Anna Karenina too. I enjoy seeing how different artists tackle this wonderful novel.
One day, I'd like to own the 1933 Anna Karenina too. I enjoy seeing how different artists tackle this wonderful novel.
40GusLogan
>39 GardenOfForkingPaths:
Those are stunningly well-preserved copies, congratulations!
Those are stunningly well-preserved copies, congratulations!
41GardenOfForkingPaths
>40 GusLogan: Thanks! Regrettably, one of the slipcases for War & Peace sustained a couple of knife slashes on the side from an overzealous customs officer. Fortunately, the books were unharmed!
42Lukas1990
Just ordered The Martian Chronicles (LEC) after a lot of consideration. The price was very good - 195$. Too good to be true... The book was described by the bookseller as AS NEW but it isn't. Although the glassine wrapper is intact and in great shape, it doesn't cover the ends of the spine and they got sunned (the sunned area of both ends is very very small, though). From the photos I can't make out if the whole spine is also slightly sunned, despite (presumably) that the glassine was always on the book. The fact that the difference between the colour of the boards and the spine is little to none makes me feel better. This will only be my second book with a glassine. Those of you who have more experience with glassines, do they protect the book well from the sun?
All other copies of The Martian Chronicles that I can find are almost twice as expensive and the majority of them have at least moderately sunned spines. Charles Agvent has a copy without a slipcase for 300$ and there's also a recently listed one for 250$ in VG condition only, spine moderately sunned, so they claim. After thorough consideration, I've made a conclusion that I will never find a fine copy for ~350$ which I would be willing to spend as this is one of my favorite books and decided to purchase the above mentioned copy.
All other copies of The Martian Chronicles that I can find are almost twice as expensive and the majority of them have at least moderately sunned spines. Charles Agvent has a copy without a slipcase for 300$ and there's also a recently listed one for 250$ in VG condition only, spine moderately sunned, so they claim. After thorough consideration, I've made a conclusion that I will never find a fine copy for ~350$ which I would be willing to spend as this is one of my favorite books and decided to purchase the above mentioned copy.
43booksforreading
>42 Lukas1990: Congratulations! It sounds like you purchased a copy in an excellent condition.
From my personal experience, all copies I purchased in glassine had significantly less light damage than books without glassine (with a few exceptions in both categories).
From my personal experience, all copies I purchased in glassine had significantly less light damage than books without glassine (with a few exceptions in both categories).
44Lukas1990
>42 Lukas1990:, >43 booksforreading: OK, here's an update. The seller acknowledged that the top 3/16” and the bottom 1/16” of the spine is badly sunned. There are also four pieces of paper stuck to one side of the slipcase that can't be removed. The seller also informed me that shipping would cost 87$ instead of 43$. And that was the last straw which made me cancel my order. I will be patient and wait for a better copy. It's inexcusable to describe such books AS NEW.
45Glacierman
>44 Lukas1990: They're either ignorant or sleazy, probably ignorant.
46GusLogan
>44 Lukas1990:
I see it’s relisted on Abebooks and still described as ”As New”…
The shipping surcharge I think sadly you just need to accept these days for bigger books, unless buying on eBay.
You’ll get lucky eventually!
I see it’s relisted on Abebooks and still described as ”As New”…
The shipping surcharge I think sadly you just need to accept these days for bigger books, unless buying on eBay.
You’ll get lucky eventually!
47Lukas1990
There are many booksellers who find cheaper ways of shipping.
Here's the book in AS NEW condition. Beware!
Here's the book in AS NEW condition. Beware!
49PartTimeBookAddict
I've been on an LEC buying binge this year:
The Invisible Man
The House of Seven Gables
The Ballads of Robin Hood
Three Tales by Flaubert
Volpone - Ben Johnson
Julius Caesar the Gallic Wars
Three Men in a Boat
Penguin Island
and my favourite of the batch:
The Golden Bough
I need to stop for a while!
The Invisible Man
The House of Seven Gables
The Ballads of Robin Hood
Three Tales by Flaubert
Volpone - Ben Johnson
Julius Caesar the Gallic Wars
Three Men in a Boat
Penguin Island
and my favourite of the batch:
The Golden Bough
I need to stop for a while!
50GusLogan
>49 PartTimeBookAddict:
You can buy more as soon as you’ve read them all!
You can buy more as soon as you’ve read them all!
51PartTimeBookAddict
>50 GusLogan: Ha ha. I know. Even worse, I forgot to mention two that I also just purchased: "Bel-Ami" and "Ethan Frome."
I'll have to rearrange my shelves soon.
I'll have to rearrange my shelves soon.
52maisiedotes
>49 PartTimeBookAddict: Of your list, I only own Volpone, but I adore it.
I need WAAAAY more help than rearranging my shelves.
I need WAAAAY more help than rearranging my shelves.
53PartTimeBookAddict
>52 maisiedotes: Yes. It is really handsome. I'll be reading it this weekend.
The "problem" with a lot of LECs is that they are too tall for my shelves. Volpone doesn't fit with the rest of my plays. I end up storing them together on my bottom shelves, unfortunately.
The "problem" with a lot of LECs is that they are too tall for my shelves. Volpone doesn't fit with the rest of my plays. I end up storing them together on my bottom shelves, unfortunately.
54PBB
First Notable acquisition of the year: The first book of the club, 1929 The Travels of Lemuel Gulliver. Complete with letter and prospectus(not pictured). In excellent condition. Has anyone else ever seen a glassine jacket age in this way? It almost looks like a snakeskin or something.
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55Bernarrd
>54 PBB: If you are referring to the speckled effect, I believe that is how that glassine was made, with a heavier paper embedded in the lighter paper. It may show more as the paper darkened with age. Very nice copy.
56GusLogan
>54 PBB:
I’m fairly sure I’ve read that the standard LEC glassine came after the first book (though possibly quite soon - apart from Gulliver I have only the Robinson Crusoe without glassine from the first series and I’ve never seen that with glassine). It may be the Gulliver’s jacket I’ve seen compared to butcher’s paper. (And of course several later LECs have more or less plain dustjackets.)
I’m fairly sure I’ve read that the standard LEC glassine came after the first book (though possibly quite soon - apart from Gulliver I have only the Robinson Crusoe without glassine from the first series and I’ve never seen that with glassine). It may be the Gulliver’s jacket I’ve seen compared to butcher’s paper. (And of course several later LECs have more or less plain dustjackets.)
57SebRinelli
>54 PBB: That copy is indeed in a remarkable condition. Congratulations for spotting it!
58GusLogan
>57 SebRinelli:
I should have said so as well - great acquisition! I think I saw it on eBay.
I should have said so as well - great acquisition! I think I saw it on eBay.
59PBB
>56 GusLogan: Yes butcher's paper is pretty close to this. I take the glassine off my LECs (I save them of course), because if you ever want to take the book out of the slipcase I feel like its impossible without adding another nick or tear. This one I will leave on because of its better construction. Yes was from ebay
60Glacierman
>56 GusLogan: Looks like old baker's parchment to me. Added by a former owner?
61GusLogan
>60 Glacierman:
I’ve both seen it before and read about it, so I think it’s original, but I am modest about knowing much about 1929 events!
I’ve both seen it before and read about it, so I think it’s original, but I am modest about knowing much about 1929 events!
62Django6924
My copy has the same wrapper--it is more like parchment--as Glacierman remarked--much heavier and more substantial than the fragile glassine most LECs were wrapped in.
64booksforreading
>63 BuzzBuzzard:
Beautiful!
Beautiful!
65PartTimeBookAddict
>63 BuzzBuzzard: I have the Folio Society edition, but it only has two of these stories. I might have to upgrade to the LEC.
66jsg1976
>65 PartTimeBookAddict: which Folio edition do you have? The one I have (illustrated by the Balbusso twins) appears to have all 4 - but two of them are under different names (The Snowstorm and the Stationmaster). Although I don’t have the LEC, so I can’t confirm that those are in fact the same stories - I’m going off the similarities in the titles.
68jpinomaha
Just received my copy of the King James Bible - 1935-1936 (#1465.) No illustrations but the type set is crisp, the binding is perfect and a little damage to the slip cases. Not necessarily to read it but I wanted to add to my collection.
69PBB
My second "big ticket" LEC after the Shakespeare set: The Old Man and the Sea. I love the Shiff era LECs where earlier work of the artists/photographers is revisited and given such a high quality presentation, like this one and some of the Balthus books, Wuthering Heights and Cosi Fan Tutte. Those are next on my list.
Note: What looks like smudges is from my shoddy camera work, not flaws in the book. Bought from The Strand, who failed to mention the penciled in price in the description or show it in the additional photos I asked for. Maybe my fault for assuming they'd show that if it was there. Still extremely happy with it!!!
Note: What looks like smudges is from my shoddy camera work, not flaws in the book. Bought from The Strand, who failed to mention the penciled in price in the description or show it in the additional photos I asked for. Maybe my fault for assuming they'd show that if it was there. Still extremely happy with it!!!
70PBB
>63 BuzzBuzzard: Beautiful book!!
71PartTimeBookAddict
>66 jsg1976: I just have the one from the 70s with the blue boards.
The Balbusso edition is much nicer and gives the LEC a run for its money.
The Balbusso edition is much nicer and gives the LEC a run for its money.
72kermaier
>69 PBB: I also hate when booksellers pencil in price, catalog number, etc. I’ve found that most do it as a matter of course, with Oak Knoll being an egregious recent offender.
73kermaier
>71 PartTimeBookAddict: The best edition of four Pushkin stories is definitely from the Allen Press, though the Allen’s included The Shot instead of The Postmaster.
74kdweber
It has been a while since I’ve picked up any LECs but Rare Collections in Capetown had a great sale with lots of later Shiff era books at very good prices. I picked up The Sonnets to Orpheus illustrated by Balthus and The Man Who Planted Trees. The books just arrived and were as advertised and well packed. Good communication from the seller who even provided providence of the books. My only problems with the purchase is that the books are huge and I don’t know where I’ll shelve them.
75mr.philistine
>74 kdweber: ...the seller who even provided providence of the books.
You mean provenance? Though, I am sure 'the protective care of God' or 'timely preparation for future eventualities' also apply :)
You mean provenance? Though, I am sure 'the protective care of God' or 'timely preparation for future eventualities' also apply :)
76PartTimeBookAddict
>73 kermaier: Very handsome!
77kdweber
>75 mr.philistine: thank you iPad auto miscorrect
78Lukas1990
Just ordered what looks like a fine copy of Fahrenheit 451 (Limited Editions Club). Hope it arrives undamaged.
79Glacierman
>72 kermaier: That's been standard practice in the antiquarian trade forever. The pencilling should be done lightly so it is easily erased by the buyer leaving no trace. It was a way to record purchase price (in code) as well as the selling price w/o using stickers, etc. Some folks use too heavy a hand with the pencil, however, and that is irritating.
80kermaier
>79 Glacierman: Erasing with literally no trace is extremely difficult, even with a light hand on the pencil, particularly on highly textured papers. Longstanding practice or not, the seller is unequivocally damaging the book for their own convenience, and I cut them no slack. They should lay in a slip of paper with their notes, and remove it when the book is sold - period.
81PBB
>72 kermaier: My favorite local place does half their rare/collectible books in pencil, half printed notecards slipped into the book. Weird method to do both. With certain things I'll risk erasing them if its for my collection, and I'll always erase if its a gift, because my friends/family wont care about that flaw if I mess up, and best not to show prices on gifts I think
82Glacierman
>80 kermaier: First, understand I am not arguing with you! The reason for the penciling versus the paper slip was that the latter is easily separated from the book and lost.
For myself, I have never felt a penciled price to be a flaw unless applied with a heavy hand, and of those I have seen plenty. I would rather a penciled price than a sticker. We two have different standards, though, and what I find acceptable, you do not and that is just fine.
You are right, however, in that textured paper presents a problem.
For myself, I have never felt a penciled price to be a flaw unless applied with a heavy hand, and of those I have seen plenty. I would rather a penciled price than a sticker. We two have different standards, though, and what I find acceptable, you do not and that is just fine.
You are right, however, in that textured paper presents a problem.
83kermaier
>82 Glacierman: Sorry for being so obstreperous. I was just recently quite irritated with Oak Knoll, for having written their notes on the front a single-sheet specimen page from the Janus Press "Dr. Lao" -- not even hidden on an endpaper. To the purchaser, the book is a collectible artwork, no less than a painting or sculpture; to the seller it's just inventory. Obviously, it's more convenient for them to write on the book, rather than insert a slip of paper, but it's that very attitude of dismissing the customer's interest that gets my goat.
84ChrisG1
I took advantage of the 30% off sale at Rare Collections and purchased 3 sci fi classics (Brave New World, Around the World in 80 Days, and The Mysterious Island), plus the complete Sherlock Holmes set - all LECs, all in very nice collectible condition. Very pleased!
I'm happy to post photos of the interiors as well, if there is interest - Christo sent me the photos & they do a wonderful job.
I'm happy to post photos of the interiors as well, if there is interest - Christo sent me the photos & they do a wonderful job.
86ChrisG1
>85 Lukas1990: Nice! That's on my want list!
87GusLogan
>84 ChrisG1:
I covet those Sherlock sets! Great haul.
I covet those Sherlock sets! Great haul.
88GusLogan
I just randomly checked eBay and found a NF copy of the LEC For Whom the Bell Tolls with a Buy It Now option at 75 USD! One of my very greatest coups. I almost accidentally bid on it instead of buying it…
89Lukas1990
>88 GusLogan: Wow! Great find! Wonder, what these sellers are thinking :D
90GusLogan
>89 Lukas1990:
Looking at the other two listings on eBay I certainly would have put the BIN at 200+…
Looking at the other two listings on eBay I certainly would have put the BIN at 200+…
91Sport1963
>88 GusLogan: You scored. In a big way.
92PBB
>88 GusLogan: lucky devil!
93GardenOfForkingPaths
>88 GusLogan: Wonderful - many congratulations! Definitely near the very top of my wishlist. I have only seen pictures but I love the look of the illustrations, which seem just right to me. I read this work for the first time a few years ago - an absolutely magnificent novel.
I'm interested to hear your impressions of the LEC when it arrives.
I'm interested to hear your impressions of the LEC when it arrives.
94Glacierman
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95Lukas1990
The Confessions of an English Opium-Eater (LEC) is on its way to Lithuania. Very excited about this one. The price is ridiculous compared to the production values.
96Sport1963
>95 Lukas1990: IMHO one of the LEC's finest productions. Congrats.
97PBB
Been a busy two months! Been so active because of a combination of Christo at Rare Collections having a great sale, so I picked up the Bibliography from them, and a few eBay sellers accepting some seriously discounted offers I put in. All with the Monthly Letters. These are all works I've already read, so not giving myself a huge to be read pile by buying these. Particularly happy with the Baron Munchausen, and the first series prospectus in the marble boards, printed by John Updike. I sent WildcatJF scans of both versions of the first series prospectus and they should be in the drive soon. Some differences between the two. I've seen slightly nicer spines of Baron Munchausen, but I decided to get this copy because it was well priced and complete, with glassine, letter and prospectus.
98GardenOfForkingPaths
>97 PBB: nice haul!
99GardenOfForkingPaths
I took a punt on a "Fine" copy of the 1947 Mutiny On The Bounty + letter and prospectus for £20. Call me cynical, but given the low price and the tendency to spine disintegration with this title, I strongly suspected there was some artistic license in the description. It arrived yesterday and, apart from a small amount of light rubbing at the spine tips, it is in excellent shape. The slipcase is quite a sturdy example, covered in a sort of sailcloth, and with a soft lining.
I assumed the binding was sheepskin, but the Letter states that it is a goatskin morocco. Another one from this era (like Paul Bunyan, 1945) that despite being goatskin, has generally not held up well.
An attractive edition. However, in most cases, I think the Heritage Press edition, which uses the same binding design in cloth, is probably a safer bet!
I assumed the binding was sheepskin, but the Letter states that it is a goatskin morocco. Another one from this era (like Paul Bunyan, 1945) that despite being goatskin, has generally not held up well.
An attractive edition. However, in most cases, I think the Heritage Press edition, which uses the same binding design in cloth, is probably a safer bet!
100GusLogan
>99 GardenOfForkingPaths:
That’s the best copy I’ve seen for sure!
That’s the best copy I’ve seen for sure!
101Sport1963
>99 GardenOfForkingPaths: That's the best looking copy I've seen, and I have seen and handled quite a few over the last 25 years.
Calling it morocco is a pretty big stretch - sort of like Ricardo Montalban intoning about the Chrysler K-Car's "fine Corinthian leather" (oops...just dated myself). That binding disintegrates easily because it was made by combining bits of leather discards, sawdust and glue, reconstituting them under heat - then rolling out the new "skins". This was a common process during the war years due to material shortages. My guess is that this title was bound in just such "left over" material in 1947.
Calling it morocco is a pretty big stretch - sort of like Ricardo Montalban intoning about the Chrysler K-Car's "fine Corinthian leather" (oops...just dated myself). That binding disintegrates easily because it was made by combining bits of leather discards, sawdust and glue, reconstituting them under heat - then rolling out the new "skins". This was a common process during the war years due to material shortages. My guess is that this title was bound in just such "left over" material in 1947.
102GardenOfForkingPaths
>100 GusLogan: Me too. A complete fluke on my part to have acquired it. Broke my cardinal rule of buying a book without seeing a photo first!
>101 Sport1963: Wow. I knew it was probably low quality leather, but did not quite realise there was the process of reconstitution that you describe. Well, I guess I understand why they didn't put that in the Monthly Letter! :) The sawdust/glue definitely helps explain some of the extreme crumbliness of the leathers.
So have you been an LEC collector for 25 years? I'm curious how you find collecting has changed over that time. I guess accessibility to all the booksellers and auctions is easier now, but there's probably also more competition for the books?
Every year more of these books must fall by the wayside because of damage. 25 years ago was it much easier to find the earlier LECs in fine condition?
>101 Sport1963: Wow. I knew it was probably low quality leather, but did not quite realise there was the process of reconstitution that you describe. Well, I guess I understand why they didn't put that in the Monthly Letter! :) The sawdust/glue definitely helps explain some of the extreme crumbliness of the leathers.
So have you been an LEC collector for 25 years? I'm curious how you find collecting has changed over that time. I guess accessibility to all the booksellers and auctions is easier now, but there's probably also more competition for the books?
Every year more of these books must fall by the wayside because of damage. 25 years ago was it much easier to find the earlier LECs in fine condition?
103Glacierman
>102 GardenOfForkingPaths: "Wow. I knew it was probably low quality leather, but did not quite realise there was the process of reconstitution that you describe. Well, I guess I understand why they didn't put that in the Monthly Letter! :) The sawdust/glue definitely helps explain some of the extreme crumbliness of the leathers"
This material, sometimes called "composite leather" is still made today. The leather scraps are ground into a powder, mixed with a plasticizer and dye, and rolled out into sheets. The rollers can have a pattern on them which can mimic whatever type of leather you wish. In the case of the stuff I've used, it was given a morocco grain pattern, and while very durable, it is a bugger to work with and doesn't take tooling too well, as the surface is pretty hard. Also, due to its composition, you can't use wheat paste with it as you can with real leather. You are forced to used something else such as a PVA (poly-vinyl acetate) adhesive such as Jade 403 which remains flexible when dry. I don't recommend its use for fine bindings or press books. It is often used for mass-produced "leather bound" trade books because it is cheap and sturdy. Those earlier versions were not so good...the process was still being developed.
This material, sometimes called "composite leather" is still made today. The leather scraps are ground into a powder, mixed with a plasticizer and dye, and rolled out into sheets. The rollers can have a pattern on them which can mimic whatever type of leather you wish. In the case of the stuff I've used, it was given a morocco grain pattern, and while very durable, it is a bugger to work with and doesn't take tooling too well, as the surface is pretty hard. Also, due to its composition, you can't use wheat paste with it as you can with real leather. You are forced to used something else such as a PVA (poly-vinyl acetate) adhesive such as Jade 403 which remains flexible when dry. I don't recommend its use for fine bindings or press books. It is often used for mass-produced "leather bound" trade books because it is cheap and sturdy. Those earlier versions were not so good...the process was still being developed.
104GardenOfForkingPaths
>103 Glacierman: Very interesting, thank you. I had never considered how leather was actually reconstituted, but it makes sense that it would need to be ground down to a powder in order to get a uniform result. Some of the more modern reconstituted leather books I have handled do seem pretty tough and hard wearing. Why let the scraps go to waste, I guess.
105Sport1963
>102 GardenOfForkingPaths: Thanks for the question GardenofForkingPaths. The short answer on LEC accessibility and condition today versus 25 years ago is: the sheer number of copies available has risen while the number of "collectible" copies in near fine or better condition has contracted. This is my anecdotal point of view, so some grains of salt should be applied by the reader.
Additional observations:
- The LEC highpoint titles have appreciated considerably over the last 25 years: the Joyce signed "Ulysses", the Lewis Carroll titles signed by Alice Hargreaves, and "Lysistrata". Collectible copies are expensive.
- There is also a dichotomy in the LEC market: On the one hand while some of the "tier-two" Macy era titles like the Weston-signed "Leaves of Grass" or the Steichen "Walden" have somewhat appreciated, most of the other titles can still be purchased for the same dollar amount (or sometimes less) than 25 years ago. Factor in that a 1998 dollar is worth about $1.86 today...well you can do the math. On the other hand is the key factor of condition. If one is quite particular about the book and its slipcase being as close to fine or near-fine as possible - be prepared to pay for that. Those copies are hard to find and have probably outpaced the 25-year rate of inflation.
- To the above point, I have upgraded some of my titles over the past several years and often paid less for the upgrade that the original. Patience and a good LEC network - being aware of extensive collections and getting to those collections before they appear on-line or are broken up by dealers or self-sellers on eBay has been key for me. Even so, cast a wide net - I acquired several first series titles from an eBay seller that are truly in Fine condition, some in the original shipping boxes that had only been opened to examine the contents. Very cool, but the exception, not the rule.
- Specialty collection areas boost prices: increased demand and short supply. Sherlockians, Arthurian, Sci-Fi, and Civil War literature specialist collectors bring additional price pressure to bear on those respective titles. That's one reason why titles like Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451" command a premium.
- Top-tier Shiff era titles (post 1985): here is where there are some good values. Many of these titles are beautiful livre d'artistes with production values that rival or surpass any of the high end fine press productions of the last 15 years (with the exception of The Barbarian Press "Pericles"). You just cannot go wrong with titles like Mallarme's "Un Coup De Des Jamais N'Abolira Le Hasard", Frank O'Hara's "Poems", or Anna Akhmatova's "Requiem".
- More Shiff values - I am also a big fan of some of the more modest Shiff productions like Robert Penn Warren's "All the King's Men", Mitchell's "Bottom of the Harbor", and Hersey's "Hiroshima". Decent prices, good production values.
To reiterate, the above is just this collector's point of view. I have seen and handled every LEC title (I own all but two of the LEC bibliography; "Our Grandmothers" and Jacob Lawrence's "The First Book of Moses, Called Genesis"), and very much appreciate how the full collection is a rather unique window into the evolution of fine press publishing from 1929-2010.
Additional observations:
- The LEC highpoint titles have appreciated considerably over the last 25 years: the Joyce signed "Ulysses", the Lewis Carroll titles signed by Alice Hargreaves, and "Lysistrata". Collectible copies are expensive.
- There is also a dichotomy in the LEC market: On the one hand while some of the "tier-two" Macy era titles like the Weston-signed "Leaves of Grass" or the Steichen "Walden" have somewhat appreciated, most of the other titles can still be purchased for the same dollar amount (or sometimes less) than 25 years ago. Factor in that a 1998 dollar is worth about $1.86 today...well you can do the math. On the other hand is the key factor of condition. If one is quite particular about the book and its slipcase being as close to fine or near-fine as possible - be prepared to pay for that. Those copies are hard to find and have probably outpaced the 25-year rate of inflation.
- To the above point, I have upgraded some of my titles over the past several years and often paid less for the upgrade that the original. Patience and a good LEC network - being aware of extensive collections and getting to those collections before they appear on-line or are broken up by dealers or self-sellers on eBay has been key for me. Even so, cast a wide net - I acquired several first series titles from an eBay seller that are truly in Fine condition, some in the original shipping boxes that had only been opened to examine the contents. Very cool, but the exception, not the rule.
- Specialty collection areas boost prices: increased demand and short supply. Sherlockians, Arthurian, Sci-Fi, and Civil War literature specialist collectors bring additional price pressure to bear on those respective titles. That's one reason why titles like Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451" command a premium.
- Top-tier Shiff era titles (post 1985): here is where there are some good values. Many of these titles are beautiful livre d'artistes with production values that rival or surpass any of the high end fine press productions of the last 15 years (with the exception of The Barbarian Press "Pericles"). You just cannot go wrong with titles like Mallarme's "Un Coup De Des Jamais N'Abolira Le Hasard", Frank O'Hara's "Poems", or Anna Akhmatova's "Requiem".
- More Shiff values - I am also a big fan of some of the more modest Shiff productions like Robert Penn Warren's "All the King's Men", Mitchell's "Bottom of the Harbor", and Hersey's "Hiroshima". Decent prices, good production values.
To reiterate, the above is just this collector's point of view. I have seen and handled every LEC title (I own all but two of the LEC bibliography; "Our Grandmothers" and Jacob Lawrence's "The First Book of Moses, Called Genesis"), and very much appreciate how the full collection is a rather unique window into the evolution of fine press publishing from 1929-2010.
106Lukas1990
>105 Sport1963: Interesting! Thanks for sharing.
107MobyRichard
I looked at some photos of Un Coup De Des Jamais on the Limited Editions Club website...nice book production, but more brain-dead Rothko chapel style "illustrations." And I thought the "illustrations" for Ficciones were bad. What an incredible mismatch, a meticulous ascetic like Mallarme matched with some recyclable contemporary automata masquerading as an artist.
108Sport1963
>107 MobyRichard: And perhaps the meticulous ascete Mallarme would argue that Kelly's work is precisely the kind of provocative art that his poetry was meant to inspire.
109MobyRichard
>108 Sport1963:
It's not provocative. It's yawn inducing. The provocative part is that the LEC would give anyone that much money to produce...whatever that is. That's the whole fraud of "contemporary" art. People go to see it b/c they can't believe people would shell out that much money for that kind of stuff. I'm not sure what the match would be here...in his lifetime Mallarme was paid next to nothing and championed by no one, other than the random Paul Valery. If LEC had been around at the time (i.e. Mallarme's contemporary), they would have passed him right by.
It's not provocative. It's yawn inducing. The provocative part is that the LEC would give anyone that much money to produce...whatever that is. That's the whole fraud of "contemporary" art. People go to see it b/c they can't believe people would shell out that much money for that kind of stuff. I'm not sure what the match would be here...in his lifetime Mallarme was paid next to nothing and championed by no one, other than the random Paul Valery. If LEC had been around at the time (i.e. Mallarme's contemporary), they would have passed him right by.
110Glacierman
>109 MobyRichard: I am in complete accord with your assessment of that "art."
111Sport1963
>109 MobyRichard: I would cross Beckett's "NoHow On" with Robert Ryman's etchings and Conrad's "Heart of Darkness" with Sean Scully's artwork off your list - they are in the same vein as Ellsworth Kelly.
On a related note, a young Count Harry Graf Kessler, founder of the Cranach Press, was an admirer of Mallarme's work while Mallarme was still alive.
On a related note, a young Count Harry Graf Kessler, founder of the Cranach Press, was an admirer of Mallarme's work while Mallarme was still alive.
112GardenOfForkingPaths
>105 Sport1963: Thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts and experience as a long-term collector. It must be so satisfying to have a 99.5% complete collection! I wish you the best for the last two (if you're going for the full set).
You've certainly given me a much more nuanced view of how the collecting landscape has changed. It's fascinating that many of the less sought-after titles are the same price or even less expensive than they were 25 years ago. I guess it makes sense as greater availability, accessibility, and competition between booksellers has probably pushed the prices of those books down.
Your experience with finding first series LECs in the original boxes sounds amazing! I'm taking on board what you say about having patience. Even in my few years of collecting I've found it's like mining for gold; often just individual nuggets here and there, but occasionally a rich seam will open up with a seller who has a number of LECs in truly fine condition at fair prices.
>107 MobyRichard: I'm wandering a bit OT here, but since you mentioned Ficciones, apart from the LEC do you know of, or can recommend any other fine press (or even just 'nice') editions of Borges works? I have the Folio Society edition of Labyrinths, which is quite nice.
You've certainly given me a much more nuanced view of how the collecting landscape has changed. It's fascinating that many of the less sought-after titles are the same price or even less expensive than they were 25 years ago. I guess it makes sense as greater availability, accessibility, and competition between booksellers has probably pushed the prices of those books down.
Your experience with finding first series LECs in the original boxes sounds amazing! I'm taking on board what you say about having patience. Even in my few years of collecting I've found it's like mining for gold; often just individual nuggets here and there, but occasionally a rich seam will open up with a seller who has a number of LECs in truly fine condition at fair prices.
>107 MobyRichard: I'm wandering a bit OT here, but since you mentioned Ficciones, apart from the LEC do you know of, or can recommend any other fine press (or even just 'nice') editions of Borges works? I have the Folio Society edition of Labyrinths, which is quite nice.
113MobyRichard
>112 GardenOfForkingPaths:
Look for Congress of the World, Franco Maria Ricci. It's kind of a large limitation but it is well printed on handmade paper. I remember one of the small fine presses did a Borges (Book of Sand maybe?). I can't remember which press. There's also some limited editions in Spanish.
I have also enjoyed collecting the hardcover trade editions, published by Dutton I think (I'm at a coffee shop right now and too lazy to check). Pretty solid bindings and paper for trade editions. And it's kind of interesting reading the disowned 'Norman Thomas di Giovanni' translations and wondering what exactly happened between him, Borges and Maria Kodama.
Look for Congress of the World, Franco Maria Ricci. It's kind of a large limitation but it is well printed on handmade paper. I remember one of the small fine presses did a Borges (Book of Sand maybe?). I can't remember which press. There's also some limited editions in Spanish.
I have also enjoyed collecting the hardcover trade editions, published by Dutton I think (I'm at a coffee shop right now and too lazy to check). Pretty solid bindings and paper for trade editions. And it's kind of interesting reading the disowned 'Norman Thomas di Giovanni' translations and wondering what exactly happened between him, Borges and Maria Kodama.
114GardenOfForkingPaths
>113 MobyRichard: Thank you!
The Ricci Congress of the World looks great.
After a bit of digging, I think the fine press Book of Sand you mentioned must be the one by Nawakum Press (reviewed here on Books and Vines). Looks like a wonderful and typically well thought out book. But, even if one of the 24 copes ever became available, I think it would be one for me to admire from afar!
It's a shame the rights situation with the Borges estate is so difficult. The short stories are so strong and surely lend themselves to beautiful letterpress editions with imaginative illustrations.
The Ricci Congress of the World looks great.
After a bit of digging, I think the fine press Book of Sand you mentioned must be the one by Nawakum Press (reviewed here on Books and Vines). Looks like a wonderful and typically well thought out book. But, even if one of the 24 copes ever became available, I think it would be one for me to admire from afar!
It's a shame the rights situation with the Borges estate is so difficult. The short stories are so strong and surely lend themselves to beautiful letterpress editions with imaginative illustrations.
115PBB
Very pleased with this excellent copy of The Lives of the Most Eminent Painters. Books and jackets are excellent except the wrinkle on Volume 1 jacket. Does that even count as a flaw? Top panel of the slipcase is loose but I'll be having a local binder repair it. Normally I read my LECs but I'm going to read the HP version of this because the volumes are just so flawless. I now have four Officina Bodoni books, and am so impressed with each of them. Unfortunately their collaborations with the LEC are books I'm just not too interested in so I probably won't be adding more anytime soon.
116kdweber
>115 PBB: Nice. I’m missing the dust jackets. The last of the Stamperia Valdonega books for the LEC. What are your three other Mardersteig books?
117PBB
>116 kdweber: Only three total actually. I have two copies of The Toilers of the Sea, Imaginary Conversations, and The Lives of the Most Eminent Painters. When I did a spreadsheet filter Toilers was in there twice and I didn't realize. Toilers was the second LEC I bought, and I didn't realize it came with a jacket originally so I ended up buying another copy. Not a novel I enjoyed but its a wonderful production
118kdweber
>117 PBB: Toilers is very susceptible to a broken binding, what’s the condition of your copies? I have to confess that my copy was purchased very cheaply because of the broken binding which I then repaired. As nice as the LEC is, I prefer the Folio Society LE. I bought the LEC with the intent to attempt a binding repair and because I wanted to have a copy of all the Mardersteig LECs (Officina Bodoni and Stamperia Valdonega).
119DenimDan
I think a lot of complaints about the livres d'artistes of the late-LEC era are to be expected. LEC went from a series devoted to traditionally illustrated classic texts to much more expensive, more contemporary volumes that clearly fall in with the standard approach to the livre d'artiste in the late 20th century. In short: Two completely different audiences, and the overlap in those audiences is a small sliver of the Venn diagram. Add in the fact that LEC followed that traditional illustrated book model for the overwhelming majority of its output, and you can see why several of these books have not gone OOP.
120PBB
Find of a lifetime: $800 for Our Grandmothers. This was on ABEbooks and wasn't a new listing so I'm so surprised I managed to pick this up. Has the letter too.
124kermaier
>120 PBB: What do you think of the paper in Our Grandmothers? The only other book I'm aware of that's printed on HMP Papermills handmade is Venus and Adonis from the Pyracantha Press.
125PBB
>124 kermaier: Not very experienced with many books from this LEC era or comparable ones from other presses and I'm not sure how to describe papers. This one to me feels both very soft and very sturdy at the same time.
I can't find much about HMP. There's an Indian company with the same name. Seems like they printed some Ellsworth Kelly images and the owners are/were John and Kathleen Koller. https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_2015-7102-1
They also made the paper for the text of http://limitededitionsclub.com/my-sister-life/ "incorporating bits of Russian newspapers with the rags and cotton pulp"
Shame I can't find more about them because they definitely did some cool and unique work from the little I could find.
The box is bumped on the corner and it was not packed professionally and has some debris from the shipping box on the top but I've been able to almost entirely clean that off. But its done its job, the book is pristine.
I can't find much about HMP. There's an Indian company with the same name. Seems like they printed some Ellsworth Kelly images and the owners are/were John and Kathleen Koller. https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_2015-7102-1
They also made the paper for the text of http://limitededitionsclub.com/my-sister-life/ "incorporating bits of Russian newspapers with the rags and cotton pulp"
Shame I can't find more about them because they definitely did some cool and unique work from the little I could find.
The box is bumped on the corner and it was not packed professionally and has some debris from the shipping box on the top but I've been able to almost entirely clean that off. But its done its job, the book is pristine.
126DenimDan
>125 PBB: HMP was the handmade paper operation of John Koller, who learned papermaking in the late 1960s from Laurence Barker, a professor at Cranbrook who taught papermaking after an introduction to Douglas Howell's handmade paper. (Barker also taught Walter Hamady, who made his own paper for ~40 years.)
HMP largely produced specialized handmade papers that were often used in intaglio art printing and artist's books. One of their famous connections is with Kenneth Tyler, a world class printer (Gemeni G.E.L. and Tyler Graphics), printing with artists including Rauschenberg, Sam Gilliam, Frank Stella, and Ellsworth Kelly too. There's a fair number of fine press books utilizing their papers, but not a lot.
It has been a while since I last read-up on HMP, but I do not remember any connection to India. Nor do I recall HMP making paper for large-scale use; it was a pretty small, artist-focused operation, often making paper in concert with the printer's designs. They may have produced some pulp paper designs as well, but I could be confusing them with some of Claire van Vliet's collaborators.
HMP papers are quite beautiful. I've never handled Our Grandmothers, but I have seen My Sister Life, and while the inclusions in that paper are probably over-the-top for most fine press collectors, it is right up my alley.
HMP largely produced specialized handmade papers that were often used in intaglio art printing and artist's books. One of their famous connections is with Kenneth Tyler, a world class printer (Gemeni G.E.L. and Tyler Graphics), printing with artists including Rauschenberg, Sam Gilliam, Frank Stella, and Ellsworth Kelly too. There's a fair number of fine press books utilizing their papers, but not a lot.
It has been a while since I last read-up on HMP, but I do not remember any connection to India. Nor do I recall HMP making paper for large-scale use; it was a pretty small, artist-focused operation, often making paper in concert with the printer's designs. They may have produced some pulp paper designs as well, but I could be confusing them with some of Claire van Vliet's collaborators.
HMP papers are quite beautiful. I've never handled Our Grandmothers, but I have seen My Sister Life, and while the inclusions in that paper are probably over-the-top for most fine press collectors, it is right up my alley.
127GusLogan
I just placed an order for The Count of Monte Christo for 125 bucks NF, which is a good deal even with expensive shipping! Very fond of its ”sibling”, Les Mis.
128GusLogan
Finally found a reasonably-priced copy of A Shropshire Lad (HP, 1935, signed, full pigskin). The leather is very dry and I’ve put some Ledervaselin on it. Should be able to give it a read this summer between jobs.
129WildcatJF
I got a $50 gift card to Amazon from work and braved the horrid search functions for doing anything LEC there to actually find a seller who had two books I wanted that combined were under $50: Oedipus the King and Peer Gynt, some highlights of the 24th series. Peer had the letter included, and both are in quite good condition with slipcases!
130kdweber
>129 WildcatJF: You did well!
131PBB
My buys over the past couple months. I sold Our Grandmothers that I posted about previously and used the proceeds for these. Really really happy with all of these. All with Monthly Letters. The Poems of the Caribbean has become one of favorite LEC books. Very glad it was an edition of 2,000 so that the price wasn't through the roof.
The Fahrenheit 451 poster was an incredibly lucky find. Glad I don't have to compete in the auction for it that I shared in the prices thread. The other poster is Jacob Lawrence from the 1972 Olympics. Not LEC but I didn't even know who he was until I started collecting LEC books and saw Hiroshima and Genesis so I'll always strongly associate him with the club.
132GardenOfForkingPaths
>131 PBB: A great selection in great condition - congratulations!
133cartographer144
>131 PBB: Congrats! I've been on the search for a copy of Poor Richard, but the prices have been a bit too high for me to bite. Your copy looks to be in great condition.
134Eumnestes
My copy of the LEC In the Penal Colony by Kafka arrived in the mail yesterday. I expected to be impressed, and I was. The book appears to be largely handmade: bound in what looks like parchment, tipped-in illustrations printed on Japanese paper, hand-sewn (says the colophon), with the text printed on mould-made paper. Solander case in light grey buckram, I think.
It's definitely a Shiff-era book. The abstract lithographs do not illustrate scenes from the story but rather offer a kind of high-art analogue to its moods. Very much pitched as an objet d'art as much as a book. I normally prefer the earlier, Macy family editions, both because they are less expensive and seem to have a broader appeal. But I can't deny the glamour of this volume.
It's definitely a Shiff-era book. The abstract lithographs do not illustrate scenes from the story but rather offer a kind of high-art analogue to its moods. Very much pitched as an objet d'art as much as a book. I normally prefer the earlier, Macy family editions, both because they are less expensive and seem to have a broader appeal. But I can't deny the glamour of this volume.
135cartographer144
Just placed my order for a complete Shakespeare set plus 10 duplicate copies of some of the titles (49 books plus review). There was very limited description or photos so it felt like a bit of a risk, but my winning bid landed at $736 which I hope to recoup a portion of through sale of the duplicates (though may be difficult to find a market). The spines look to have the typical darkening, but all of the non-duplicates were fitted with protective jackets which signified to me that they were well cared for despite the rather common aging of the spines. This may finally be the purchase to sideline me for a bit; at least until I build new shelves and replenish the bank account.
136Lukas1990
>135 cartographer144: Congrats! I don't own the set yet but will acquire it in the future (need new shelves). For me this is an ideal set because of the illustrations.
137cartographer144
>136 Lukas1990: I'm toying with the idea of assembling a second set. Between my 10 duplicates and another 8 title bundle up for sale at a reasonable price, I can get halfway there for very cheap. I think assembling the second half may be a bit cost prohibitive based on the price list of the individuals I've accumulated from Abe. Ultimately I'm not looking to turn a significant profit, but would do it for the satisfaction out of assembling a complete set and getting it to a new owner rather than selling off individuals. That said, the risk of spending all that money to have an extra 37 books lying around my house that I need to find an owner for without losing money does not sound appealing.
138Lukas1990
>137 cartographer144: Good luck! Individual tomes are usually very expensive... Midsummer Night's Dream alone may cost hundreds of dollars.
BTW, I've just won an Ebay auction for The Confessions of Saint Augustine (Limited Editions Club) in like new condition. The cheapest LEC I've ever acquired for 15.50$! Anyone can share some quick thoughts on this one? Looks like a beautifully illustrated book.
BTW, I've just won an Ebay auction for The Confessions of Saint Augustine (Limited Editions Club) in like new condition. The cheapest LEC I've ever acquired for 15.50$! Anyone can share some quick thoughts on this one? Looks like a beautifully illustrated book.
140cartographer144
>138 Lukas1990: Congrats, I spent more than that on my HP copy. I agree it is a beautiful book. I have not read it yet but definitely plan to within the next couple years.
141PBB
Received 1951 Anna Karenina today. As crisp as opening a brand new book, feel like they've never opened. Fairly certain those are the original wrappers, have not found another listing with photos to confirm but I know it came with plain ones. I've been selling some books like Franklin Library, Heritage Press, and some of the less interesting LECs that I bought when I first started collecting that I'm no longer interested in and it's helped me pick up the pace buying some new ones.
143cartographer144
Shakespeare set arrived in two massive boxes! It will take me a while to fully inspect, but so far the condition is better than expected in some respects and a bit worst in others.
The good: Boards are immaculate with some slightly bumped corners here and there, every book has uncut pages and looks to be a completely unread set, spines darkened less than expected and uniformly so, top edge gilting in great shape, every volume has commentary tucked into front cover along with other ephemera.
The not so good: Title gilting is faded on most the books, though this was anticipated. There are 10 duplicate copies that were not covered in plastic jackets that have better looking titles. Some foxing on the page edges that often bleeds into the end papers and in rare cases into the text. There is quite a bit of offsetting of colored illustrations onto opposite page- this is probably the biggest flaw. Again the duplicate copies don’t seem to have this problem as much as the main set.
Overall I am very pleased. At less than $20 per volume I am willing to compromise on some of the issues and will get great use out of these for many years.
The good: Boards are immaculate with some slightly bumped corners here and there, every book has uncut pages and looks to be a completely unread set, spines darkened less than expected and uniformly so, top edge gilting in great shape, every volume has commentary tucked into front cover along with other ephemera.
The not so good: Title gilting is faded on most the books, though this was anticipated. There are 10 duplicate copies that were not covered in plastic jackets that have better looking titles. Some foxing on the page edges that often bleeds into the end papers and in rare cases into the text. There is quite a bit of offsetting of colored illustrations onto opposite page- this is probably the biggest flaw. Again the duplicate copies don’t seem to have this problem as much as the main set.
Overall I am very pleased. At less than $20 per volume I am willing to compromise on some of the issues and will get great use out of these for many years.
144laotzu225
>49 PartTimeBookAddict: Do you have the Monthly Letter for Three Tales? I have the book but no ML.
145PartTimeBookAddict
>144 laotzu225: Why yes I do! Nov 1978, Number 511. Also the "Number Nine" insert.
Oddly enough, the label on the slipcase is missing, though.
I can take some photos and try to upload them. I haven't done that before on LT, so allow me some trial and error.
Is there a particular thread I should post them to? Are there easy instructions somewhere for posting photos? I found this and will try and follow it unless there is a simpler way: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Groups:Folio_Society_Devotees#How_to_add...
Oddly enough, the label on the slipcase is missing, though.
I can take some photos and try to upload them. I haven't done that before on LT, so allow me some trial and error.
Is there a particular thread I should post them to? Are there easy instructions somewhere for posting photos? I found this and will try and follow it unless there is a simpler way: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Groups:Folio_Society_Devotees#How_to_add...
146PartTimeBookAddict
>144 laotzu225: Okay. I figured it out and they are up on the "Monthly Letter" thread.
147Lukas1990
Just ordered Notre-Dame De Paris (1930 LEC edition illustrated by Frans Masereel). Very happy with the price and location of the book (Belgium). :)
148ManishBadwal
Just received my first LEC books :)
- ODES AND EPODES OF HORACE (1961)
- THE MEMOIRS OF CASANOVA (1972)
- NOTRE-DAME DE PARIS (1955)
- THE FLOWERS OF EVIL (1971)
- RESURRECTION (1963)
- FATHERS AND SONS (1951)
- CHILDHOOD, BOYHOOD, YOUTH (1972)
- THE MOONSTONE (1959)
- THE CONFESSIONS OF JEAN-JACQUES ROUSSEAU (1955)
- BHAGAVAD GITA: THE SONG CELESTIAL (1965)
- THE TRAVELS OF MARCO POLO (1934)
- ODES AND EPODES OF HORACE (1961)
- THE MEMOIRS OF CASANOVA (1972)
- NOTRE-DAME DE PARIS (1955)
- THE FLOWERS OF EVIL (1971)
- RESURRECTION (1963)
- FATHERS AND SONS (1951)
- CHILDHOOD, BOYHOOD, YOUTH (1972)
- THE MOONSTONE (1959)
- THE CONFESSIONS OF JEAN-JACQUES ROUSSEAU (1955)
- BHAGAVAD GITA: THE SONG CELESTIAL (1965)
- THE TRAVELS OF MARCO POLO (1934)
149PBB
>148 ManishBadwal: what a haul! Congratulations!
150ManishBadwal
>149 PBB: Thank you !
I bought these from Rare Collections Cape Town. The owner, Christo, is truly a gem and offered some of these from his personal collection that were not listed on the website. The packaging and shipping was top notch and all the books arrived safely here in India.
I was pleasantly surprised that they are able to offer expedited international shipping at such good rates. Prior to this, the best rates for international shipping that I could find was from Alibris, but Alibris only does normal untracked shipping to India and the packaging is pathetic.
I highly recommend Rare Collections, especially for those not residing in US due to which shipping can be expensive and painful.
I bought these from Rare Collections Cape Town. The owner, Christo, is truly a gem and offered some of these from his personal collection that were not listed on the website. The packaging and shipping was top notch and all the books arrived safely here in India.
I was pleasantly surprised that they are able to offer expedited international shipping at such good rates. Prior to this, the best rates for international shipping that I could find was from Alibris, but Alibris only does normal untracked shipping to India and the packaging is pathetic.
I highly recommend Rare Collections, especially for those not residing in US due to which shipping can be expensive and painful.
151PBB
>150 ManishBadwal: I have also had great experiences with Christo, and had the same pleasant surprise about shipping not being too high across the Atlantic from SA to central USA.
152Salaxalans
Before this year, I only had two LEC titles. I purchased Peer Gynt about ten years ago. It's my favorite play and the LEC edition is stunning. So much went into it and the story behind the art is incredible! A few years ago, I purchased In the Penal Colony as a reward for surviving a 22.5 hour shift at work (in the count room at a casino, when all of our money-counting machines broke down). Now, in 2023, I have purchased oh so many more LEC titles! I have gone from two to twenty-one (plus two LEC-adjacent titles)! It seems I've really caught the bug. This year I have purchased, in publication order:
1. Volpone or the Fox by Ben Jonson
2. Quarto-Millenary
3. Tono-Bungay by H. G. Wells
4. Salammbô by Gustave Flaubert
5. Omoo by Herman Melville
6. Three Plays of Euripides
7. Ah, Wilderness by Eugene O'Neill
8. Candide by Voltaire
9. A Voyage to the South Seas by William Bligh
10. The Light of Asia by Sir Edwin Arnold
11. Roxana by Daniel Defoe
12. Three Tales by Gustave Flaubert
13. The Adventures of Simplicissimus by Johann Jakob Christoffel von Grimmelshausen
14. The Iceman Cometh by Eugene O'Neill
15. Break of Day by Colette
16. The Secret Sharer by Joseph Conrad
17. Journeys Among the Dead by Eugéne Ionesco
18. Kingdom of this World by Alejo Carpentier
19. Oedipus by Friedrich Dürrenmatt
All of these include the Monthly Letter and prospectus where relevant! A few of these I obtained directly from the LEC after emailing them. I had a nice conversation with Louise. It was quite something, actually receiving a package from the Limited Editions Club!
Besides these titles, I have also obtained "A Record of the Proceedings: 11 May 1950" and the Oak Knoll LEC history book. I am currently trying to track down a copy of Man and Superman as well as a copy of the History of Amleth, Prince of Denmark but otherwise, I am trying to take a bit of a break. Quite the year it has been! I am very happy with all these purchases and I look forward to future discoveries.
1. Volpone or the Fox by Ben Jonson
2. Quarto-Millenary
3. Tono-Bungay by H. G. Wells
4. Salammbô by Gustave Flaubert
5. Omoo by Herman Melville
6. Three Plays of Euripides
7. Ah, Wilderness by Eugene O'Neill
8. Candide by Voltaire
9. A Voyage to the South Seas by William Bligh
10. The Light of Asia by Sir Edwin Arnold
11. Roxana by Daniel Defoe
12. Three Tales by Gustave Flaubert
13. The Adventures of Simplicissimus by Johann Jakob Christoffel von Grimmelshausen
14. The Iceman Cometh by Eugene O'Neill
15. Break of Day by Colette
16. The Secret Sharer by Joseph Conrad
17. Journeys Among the Dead by Eugéne Ionesco
18. Kingdom of this World by Alejo Carpentier
19. Oedipus by Friedrich Dürrenmatt
All of these include the Monthly Letter and prospectus where relevant! A few of these I obtained directly from the LEC after emailing them. I had a nice conversation with Louise. It was quite something, actually receiving a package from the Limited Editions Club!
Besides these titles, I have also obtained "A Record of the Proceedings: 11 May 1950" and the Oak Knoll LEC history book. I am currently trying to track down a copy of Man and Superman as well as a copy of the History of Amleth, Prince of Denmark but otherwise, I am trying to take a bit of a break. Quite the year it has been! I am very happy with all these purchases and I look forward to future discoveries.
153BuzzBuzzard
Some books I added earlier this summer. The French Revolution is an upgrade. I could not pass on at this condition. Kim is new for me in mint condition. The Golden Ass is a duplicate but a favorite of mine. The Oregon Trail is hard to find in nice condition, but not impossible. The leather does not feel fragile. Not sure why so very few remained in collectible condition. Perhaps issues sourcing quality material during the war. Salammbo (1930 The Brown House) with illustrations by Alexander King. I read this one and have to say that I like the story as well as the edition. King's illuastrations are not to everyone's liking but I think they work well here. Last but not least, The Old Man and the Sea. I splurged (to my standards) a bit, but considering what contemporary fine press books sell for, this one is a bargain.
154SebRinelli
>153 BuzzBuzzard:
Those copies are in a lovely condition!
The LEC Old Man and the Sea is a wonderful book. Interestingly, the blue leather on my copy is much, much darker than on many copies I have seen on the internet. I wonder whether the variation is just due to the brightness of the pictures or a variation of the leather taken.
Those copies are in a lovely condition!
The LEC Old Man and the Sea is a wonderful book. Interestingly, the blue leather on my copy is much, much darker than on many copies I have seen on the internet. I wonder whether the variation is just due to the brightness of the pictures or a variation of the leather taken.
155affle
>154 SebRinelli:
Mine is much darker, too, but not much, much darker - I don't think that helps answer your point, but it's a splendid book.
Mine is much darker, too, but not much, much darker - I don't think that helps answer your point, but it's a splendid book.
157PBB
>154 SebRinelli: I'm pretty sure the variation is from the leather, not pictures. I have a light blue copy, and I haven't seen any sellers describe either of the shades as flaws from age or sun. I thought it might be caused by two different binders working on the book, as was the case with some Shiff-era publications. There's only one binder, John von Isakovics, mentioned in the Monthly Letter, so I'm guessing two different sources of the leather caused the difference. When I was hunting for the book it seemed as if the darker ones had a higher average price, but that's small sample size so can't draw a real conclusion from that.
158Glacierman
Well, it's nothing to get too excited about, but I just got a very nice copy of the LEC's version of Scott's Kenilworth with ML & notice for $25 w/free shipping.
I like Scott, so this for me is a great buy.
The seller had it listed as "Renilworth."
I like Scott, so this for me is a great buy.
The seller had it listed as "Renilworth."
159Lukas1990
I've just ordered a copy of LEC Hamlet illustrated and printed by Eric Gill. It is in like new condition. Will post pictures when the book arrives.
160laotzu225
>146 PartTimeBookAddict: I don't know why I didn't see this response sooner. Thanks for making the effort. But I still can't find the ML. At first i thought you had found a way to get it onto the Google Drive. But it is not there. Is there a chance you can scan it and send me a copy. I know that BionicJim has access rights to add to the Drive.
161PBB
Received my copy of WildcatJF's book today. Was not expecting over 300 pages! I really like the cover showing a bit of each cover from the series. Really nice quality on the example illustration and text pages. Glad I was able to contribute a bit by providing the two prospectuses for this series. If you have not ordered a copy you should!
Next week I will be receiving The Kingdom of This World, The Koran, and The Confessions of Saint Augustine, managed to get good prices for all three within a short time. The Kingdom of This World will be my first book with paper from Richard de Bas, very excited to have something from a mill with such a limited output, long history, and famous clients.
162cartographer144
Glacierman that must have shipped quick! I feel like it was just a couple days ago I saw ‘Renilworth’ on Ebay and had a chuckle. Almost jumped at it myself, congrats!
163PartTimeBookAddict
>160 laotzu225: Hi. You responded on the other thread. Are these photos downloadable? Or do you need a scanner scan? I can get to it probably in late Oct, if so.
I haven’t seen this Google drive file before, so I don’t know what type of file you need. If you can message me I can go from there. Thanks!
I haven’t seen this Google drive file before, so I don’t know what type of file you need. If you can message me I can go from there. Thanks!
165WildcatJF
>161 PBB: Awww thank you PBB for the very kind words! And thank you for your help on making it happen!
166kermaier
>159 Lukas1990: Like new! That’s almost unheard of with the Gill Hamlet, due to the pigskin binding.
167elladan0891
I'VE GOT THE GOLDEN ASS!
Sorry. Couldn't hold it back...
Sorry. Couldn't hold it back...
168Lukas1990
>166 kermaier: I didn't expect to see one in my lifetime... Fingers crossed for the safe delivery from US.
170Lukas1990
Bookseller sent me some photos and it looked like the upper spine end is just a bit browned not rubbed. Eh... At least it is a very light rubbing.
171GusLogan
>170 Lukas1990:
Still pretty nice! Like a Disney pig.
Still pretty nice! Like a Disney pig.
172Joshbooks1
>169 PBB: I completely agree! I obtained a new copy last year for a similar price and it is absolutely stunning. I'm always shocked with some of LEC pricing especially when compared to a lot of current day new publications. Others I recently bought and was shocked by the value are Dubliners, In the Penal Colony, All the Kings Men and The Flounder. I'm still collecting but so far those have been my favorites at that price point.
173kdweber
>170 Lukas1990: Whoa, nice! Virtually no toning and only some minor wear at the top of the spine. Much better than my copy which has the typical toned spine.
174kdweber
Just received my top LEC wishlist entry: Seven Years in Tibet thanks to a tip-off on an ABE listing from fellow LT member >169 PBB:. Beautiful condition and very nicely priced, thanks again PBB.
175cartographer144
I have seen quite a few Dracula listings over the last couple months at crazy high prices (perhaps a seasonal trend to capitalize on Halloween?). I managed to jump on one that came up for just under $100 which still seems like a lot, but I am very pleased that it arrived as advertised in truly Fine condition. I like the overall book design and am neutral on the illustrations. I will reserve final judgement as always until I after I read it which will probably be next Halloween.
176GardenOfForkingPaths
I received a copy of the 1935 Heritage Press Romeo and Juliet signed by Sylvain Sauvage. That's a nice book! I can see why it's a favourite amongst devotees here and considered to be of LEC quality.
177maisiedotes
>176 GardenOfForkingPaths: Congratulations! That’s one of my favorites, too.
178GusLogan
I had a nice little FedEx delivery today:
Reform of the paper currency - lacks cursèd leather backstrip but otherwise in NF nick and was cheap enough
A Sentimental Journey - I can see why this is popular here!
Poems of Poe - a good companion to my Dickinson LEC
Kafka’s Methamorphosis - sunned spine as usual but a pretty little thing nonetheless
Steppenwolf - haven’t checked but I assume same binder as Winesburg, Ohio, same solid design
Reform of the paper currency - lacks cursèd leather backstrip but otherwise in NF nick and was cheap enough
A Sentimental Journey - I can see why this is popular here!
Poems of Poe - a good companion to my Dickinson LEC
Kafka’s Methamorphosis - sunned spine as usual but a pretty little thing nonetheless
Steppenwolf - haven’t checked but I assume same binder as Winesburg, Ohio, same solid design
179Glacierman
Not a Macy book, but very much in that spirit, I just today received a copy of the Westvaco edition of 20 Tales by Nathaniel Hawthorne. It was their Christmas book for 1983 and is in pristine condition although the slipcase age toned around the edges. It was printed offset by Meriden Gravure in Sabon with Baskerville italics. Front cover has a U. S. postage stamp of Hawthorne inset. Very nicely done, from design to printing.
181Django6924
As I remember, Macy was less than pleased with Simon's illustrations for Villon, but I think they are quite appropriate for the works. Villon was quite rangy in his diction, sometimes wistful, sometimes bawdy, and Simon's illustration do justice to this variety of tones.
(A real gem in the translations is Henley's "Villon's Straight Tip to All Cross Coves" in gangster argot.)
(A real gem in the translations is Henley's "Villon's Straight Tip to All Cross Coves" in gangster argot.)
182PBB
>181 Django6924: I didn't see any comments from Macy on Simon's work in the Quarto-Millenary, and nothing in Carol Grossman's book either. Was this something he mentioned in a later Monthly Letter or private correspondence?
Whatever Macy thought, I agree with you that the illustrations are appropriate. Also an excellent book in all other aspects as well. l have only had it for a few days and it is already one of my favorites.
Whatever Macy thought, I agree with you that the illustrations are appropriate. Also an excellent book in all other aspects as well. l have only had it for a few days and it is already one of my favorites.
183GardenOfForkingPaths
>180 PBB: nice acquisitions! Your Book of Job looks to be in very nice shape.
184Lukas1990
>180 PBB: Nice volumes! The Sonnets of Petrarch is very high on my wishlist. Seems like the price has gone down recently. Let me know how you like that Le Morte D'Arthur. I thing Robert Gibbings was a very skilled artist.
185Django6924
>182 PBB:
I wish I could remember where he made the comment; it was probably in a later Monthly Letter. I only remember it because it was one of the times when I disagreed with his opinion of the illustrations--which reinforced my own belief that when it comes to book illustrations, chacun à son goût.
I wish I could remember where he made the comment; it was probably in a later Monthly Letter. I only remember it because it was one of the times when I disagreed with his opinion of the illustrations--which reinforced my own belief that when it comes to book illustrations, chacun à son goût.
186mr.philistine
>185 Django6924: I wish I could remember where he made the comment; it was probably in a later Monthly Letter.
Was it the ML accompanying the 1979 Villon, per your 2012-post here?: https://www.librarything.com/topic/134618#3306352
Was it the ML accompanying the 1979 Villon, per your 2012-post here?: https://www.librarything.com/topic/134618#3306352
188PBB
>183 GardenOfForkingPaths: Thanks! It's a bit better than the other ones on eBay at the moment. It's a shame that many of Szyk's LEC/HP works have not aged well
>184 Lukas1990: Sonnets is definitely worth getting. Really one of my favorites and a great value. Simple but really pleasing illustrations. Le Morte D'Arthur is great too, my first book with anything from Gibbings or the Golden Cockerel Press.
>185 Django6924: I wonder if any of the negative feedback from subscribers was featured in any of the Monthly Letters after Lyrics went out in 1933. Based on the 1979 letter, it seems like it was subscribers who were disappointed, and Macy's opinion isn't mentioned, although he may have felt the same way.
>186 mr.philistine: Nice find. I like Simon's illustrations but when you look at who else has illustrated Villon, it's easy to see why his would not be the most highly regarded. Sort of surprised the LEC thought a new edition was needed, since very few (if any?) of the subscribers who were disappointed in 1933 would have been around in 1979, and by then they could have found something from another press or illustrator.
>184 Lukas1990: Sonnets is definitely worth getting. Really one of my favorites and a great value. Simple but really pleasing illustrations. Le Morte D'Arthur is great too, my first book with anything from Gibbings or the Golden Cockerel Press.
>185 Django6924: I wonder if any of the negative feedback from subscribers was featured in any of the Monthly Letters after Lyrics went out in 1933. Based on the 1979 letter, it seems like it was subscribers who were disappointed, and Macy's opinion isn't mentioned, although he may have felt the same way.
>186 mr.philistine: Nice find. I like Simon's illustrations but when you look at who else has illustrated Villon, it's easy to see why his would not be the most highly regarded. Sort of surprised the LEC thought a new edition was needed, since very few (if any?) of the subscribers who were disappointed in 1933 would have been around in 1979, and by then they could have found something from another press or illustrator.
189mr.philistine
>188 PBB: Based on the 1979 letter... Macy's opinion isn't mentioned, although he may have felt the same way.
Don't forget, George Macy passed away in 1956.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Macy
Don't forget, George Macy passed away in 1956.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Macy
190PBB
>189 mr.philistine: right, was thinking that maybe the combination of subscribers being disappointed and some office knowledge of Macy’s similar feelings pushed them to do it
191PBB
https://www.librarything.com/pic/10464275
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Received this wonderful book for Christmas. Probably my last acquisition of the year. One of 1100 copies, during the lower limitation WWII years. Nicer paper than other books I have from this era.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255997667478 The HP edition looks very nice too, $30 copy here with Sandglass and make offer option available.
https://www.librarything.com/pic/10464270
Received this wonderful book for Christmas. Probably my last acquisition of the year. One of 1100 copies, during the lower limitation WWII years. Nicer paper than other books I have from this era.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255997667478 The HP edition looks very nice too, $30 copy here with Sandglass and make offer option available.
192kermaier
>191 PBB: that’s definitely one of the highlights of my LEC holdings as well, and of course a great read — enjoy!
193PBB
>192 kermaier: Something I read a bit of in high school but can't remember what I thought of it then. Will have to revisit soon. The Monthly Letter really hypes it up, calling it one of the three greatest works in English, along with King James Bible and Shakespeare.
195Lukas1990
>193 PBB: I've recently ordered the Cresset Press version of Bacon's Essays. Your post gave me an idea to read the Monthly Letter for some additional info about the author and his work. These letters always get me hyped!
196PartTimeBookAddict
The last acquisition of the year was a Christmas gift to myself: Paradise Lost and Paradise Regain'd with fantastic boards like I've never seen and wonderful black and white illustrations by Carlotta Petrina.
I am so impressed.
On the spine label there is the printing date 1936. Does any other LEC production have the printing date on the spine?
Happy new year to all and happy reading!
I am so impressed.
On the spine label there is the printing date 1936. Does any other LEC production have the printing date on the spine?
Happy new year to all and happy reading!
197cartographer144
I know the 1942 Huckleberry Finn does and probably some others but my books are in temporary storage so I can’t check quickly.
198PBB
>196 PartTimeBookAddict: The John Henry Nash edition of Emerson's Essays has the year in Roman numerals on the spine
199PartTimeBookAddict
>197 cartographer144: >198 PBB: Thanks. I really like this aesthetic touch.
I see on your profile pic, Tom Sawyer has it as well.
I see on your profile pic, Tom Sawyer has it as well.
200Sport1963
>196 PartTimeBookAddict: I went through the LECs on my shelves and came up with the following list (year published on spine):
1. Old Wives' Tale - Bennett, Arnold, year on the DJs
2. Sartor Resartus - Carlyle, Thomas
3. The Pickwick Papers - Dickens, Charles, year on the DJs
4. Essays - Emerson, Ralph Waldo
5. Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin - Franklin, Benjamin, year on slipcase, not the book
6. Notre Dame de Paris (1930) - Hugo, Victor
7. The Adventures of Gil Blas de Santillane - LeSage, Alain-Rene, year on the DJs
8. Paradise Lost - Milton, John
9. The Adventures of Peregrine Pickle - Smollett, Tobias, year on the DJs
10. The Faerie Queene - Spenser, Edmund, year on the DJs
11. The Travels of Lemuel Gulliver (1929) - Swift, Jonathan
12. Frithiof's Saga - Tegner, Esaias, year on slipcase, not the book
13. Vanity Fair, Thackery, William Makepeace, year on the DJs
14. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (1933) - Twain, Mark, year on slipcase, not the book
15. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (1942) - Twain, Mark
16. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer - Twain, Mark
1. Old Wives' Tale - Bennett, Arnold, year on the DJs
2. Sartor Resartus - Carlyle, Thomas
3. The Pickwick Papers - Dickens, Charles, year on the DJs
4. Essays - Emerson, Ralph Waldo
5. Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin - Franklin, Benjamin, year on slipcase, not the book
6. Notre Dame de Paris (1930) - Hugo, Victor
7. The Adventures of Gil Blas de Santillane - LeSage, Alain-Rene, year on the DJs
8. Paradise Lost - Milton, John
9. The Adventures of Peregrine Pickle - Smollett, Tobias, year on the DJs
10. The Faerie Queene - Spenser, Edmund, year on the DJs
11. The Travels of Lemuel Gulliver (1929) - Swift, Jonathan
12. Frithiof's Saga - Tegner, Esaias, year on slipcase, not the book
13. Vanity Fair, Thackery, William Makepeace, year on the DJs
14. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (1933) - Twain, Mark, year on slipcase, not the book
15. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (1942) - Twain, Mark
16. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer - Twain, Mark
201PartTimeBookAddict
>200 Sport1963: Thanks. It seems like a pretty regular practice after all. I only have about two dozen LECs and none on that list (except for the Milton, now).
There's something really charming about this touch, another reason to love the LECs.
There's something really charming about this touch, another reason to love the LECs.
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