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"The Iliad" and "The Odyssey" stand at the very beginning of Greek literature. Much has been written about their origins and authorship, but Jasper Griffin, although he touches briefly on those questions, is here concerned with the ideas of the poems, which have had such an incalculable influence on the ideas of the West. He shows that each of the two epics has its own coherent and suggestive view of the world and of man's place in it.… (plus d'informations)
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11. Homer (Past Masters) by Jasper Griffin
published: 1980
format: 80 page little hardcover
acquired: borrowed from my library
read: Feb 24-25
rating: 3 stars

In his introduction Griffin quotes [[Matthew Arnold]] as saying Homer is great "in the noble and profound application of ideas to life.". Then he writes that he hopes "to explain and justify" this statement. I wish he hadn't. Actually all I wanted was a version of a very short introduction to Homer. But that's not really what this is. By taking the high ground in a way, he lets us down a bit. He never comes close to providing the explanation and justification promised, and he also never boils these poems down. But he does allow himself to go his own way, and, when he finally gets somewhere, he has some very interesting things to say.

He takes some time to get there. Shortly after telling the reader we should read the poems before we read his book and he goes on to use up many of his 80 pages with a plot summary of the Iliad. Finally - along about page 30 where he writes, "Perhaps even now, despite the long insistence by churches and philosophers that there is one single set of standards, unambiguously moral and the same for everybody, the common man still retains at heart some Homeric values. " - we start getting somewhere.

The rest of the book has really interesting things to say about the Iliad, which he claims is the greater poem, and the Odyssey. He tells us "And Helen is a legendary figure not for her achievements or her virtue but for her guilt and suffering." That is the expression of suffering is her purpose; and it's same for Achilles and Hektor, making the Iliad quite the tragedy. The main mechanism is heroism, and its restrictions and their consequences provide the plays tragedy. To put it another way, characters suffer and die because of choices forced on them in order to maintain their heroic role.

When he writes about the its largely to contrast it, where characters don't exactly abandon the heroic code, but certainly Odysseus stretches its definition.

So, overall I'm pleased I read this, even if I felt the need to beat it up a little bit.

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  dchaikin | Feb 26, 2016 |
A masterful introduction to the Iliad and the Odyssey. Griffin is interested in the literary themes and ideas that drive these two classics, and what he serves up is a feast of incisive observation and interpretation. Along the way he traces the effect of the Homeric epics on Western civilisation and writing. Also helpful is the way he contrasts the unique distinctives of each epic vis-a-vis the other. A recommended short introduction and companion to the first literary works of Europe. ( )
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"The Iliad" and "The Odyssey" stand at the very beginning of Greek literature. Much has been written about their origins and authorship, but Jasper Griffin, although he touches briefly on those questions, is here concerned with the ideas of the poems, which have had such an incalculable influence on the ideas of the West. He shows that each of the two epics has its own coherent and suggestive view of the world and of man's place in it.

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