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War par Sebastian Junger
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War (édition 2010)

par Sebastian Junger (Auteur)

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Junger, author of "The Perfect Storm," turns his brilliant and empathetic eye to the reality of combat in this on-the-ground account that follows a single platoon through a 15-month tour of duty in the most dangerous outpost in Afghanistan's Korengal Valley.
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Guerre - Etre soldat en Afghanistan par Sebastian Junger

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    The Outpost par Jake Tapper (spotlf87)
    spotlf87: Both books portray the war in Afghanistan out in the combat outposts. They show the raw and austere nature of the war for many American soldiers fighting in Afghanistan. Both books are set in the same general area of the country.
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Excellent book that shows the true nature of war and the way reckless rushing into conflict by powers to be leaves great scars on people that enter the fray in order to fight for their country and stay fighting for most important reason they have - to save the lives of those fighting with them and living the life on the battlefield with them.

Very fact that this view of fighting man, issues they have, their fears and brotherhood, confronting death every day, does not differ from views one can find in WW1 and WW2 books and biographies shows that only thing that changes when it comes war is technology. Everything else is as old as humankind itself.

Highly recommended. ( )
  Zare | Jan 23, 2024 |
This book is not a commentary on the Afghanistan War. The author deliberately focuses on the soldiers point of view. As he wrote, the soldiers care about protecting each other as the nest route to their own survival. They don’t care about the overall war. Junger gives a beautiful, very personal view of the soldiers’ lives. Highly recommended. ( )
  BookListener | Jan 17, 2024 |
Here's what I wrote in 2013 about this read: "Surprisingly engaging. Recommended by DLA and a good ready about soldiers in the extreme situation of the mountains of Afganistan. Author also made the movie Restrepo in this setting, which DLA and DBA watched." ( )
  MGADMJK | Dec 12, 2023 |
I probably would have liked it more if I had read it instead of listened. The author/narrator was so monotone that there were several periods of listening when I realized that I had zoned out completely and had to rewind. Or didn't bother rewinding.

There were some very intense scenes and I got the point of the book and mostly enjoyed it. This is one of those audio books where the author shouldn't have done the reading. ( )
  amcheri | Jan 5, 2023 |
A view from a very "tactical" (platoon, more or less) level, but interesting, moving and sincre.

I agree with Patrick Hennessy who wrote: "A vivid portrait, often bitterly funny and desperately sad" ( )
  norbert.book | Aug 28, 2021 |
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As with The Perfect Storm, Junger's 1997 best seller about a fishing boat disaster, it blends the specific and general. A sweeping picture emerges from a mosaic of close-ups. ...

His account may not convert supporters or opponents of the war, but it should fuel doubts on both sides and anyone in between.

At its best, War vividly documents the individual costs, which, he argues, need to be acknowledged ...
ajouté par tim.taylor | modifierUSA Today, Bob Minzesheimer (May 11, 2010)
 
With his narrative gifts and vivid prose -- as free, thank God, of literary posturing as it is of war-correspondent chest-thumping -- Junger masterfully chronicles the platoon's 15-month tour of duty. But what elevates "War" out of its particular time and place are the author's meditations on the minds and emotions of the soldiers with whom he has shared hardships, dangers and spells of boredom so intense that everyone sits around wishing to hell something would happen (and wishes to God it was over when, inevitably, it does).
 
Sebastian Junger, a contributing editor at Vanity Fair and the author of “The Perfect Storm,” spent months shadowing an American infantry platoon deployed in the valley between 2007 and 2008. The result is “War,” his absorbing and original if sometimes uneven account of his time there. ...

He uses the platoon (the second of Battle Company, part of the 173rd Airborne Brigade) as a kind of laboratory to examine the human condition as it evolved under the extraordinary circumstances in which these soldiers fought and lived. And what a laboratory it is. ...
 
...Junger uses the soldiers' experiences to briefly explore several asides that help illustrate their lives on the front lines of war. We learn about the treatment of wounds by combat medics, the numerous studies done by the Army and others during the past several decades to understand how soldiers function under fire, the glue of brotherhood — and it is nothing less than love — that gives fighting units courage and holds them together, the toll that "the steady adrenaline of heavy combat" takes on some soldiers.

These asides broaden a narrative that otherwise is so tightly focused that any larger view of the war in Afghanistan goes unmentioned. Then again, as Junger writes, "The moral basis of the war doesn't seem to interest soldiers much, and its long-term success or failure has a relevance of almost zero u2026 they generally leave the big picture to others."...
 

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As a soldier, the thing you were most scared of was failing your brothers when they needed you, and compared to that, dying was easy. Dying was over. Cowardice lingered forever.
The moral basis of the war doesn't seem to interest soldiers much, and its long-term success or failure has a relevance of almost zero. Soldiers worry about those things about as much as farmhands worry about the global economy, which is to say they recognize stupidity when it's right in front of them but they generally leave the big picture to others.
Wars are fought with very heavy machinery that works best on top of the biggest hill in the area and used against men who are lower down. That, in a nutshell, is military tactics, and it means that an enormous amount of war-fighting simply consists of carrying heavy loads uphill.
The primary factor determining breakdown in combat does not appear to be the objective level of danger so much as the feeling--even the illusion--of control. Highly trained men in extraordinarily dangerous circumstances are less likely to break down than untrained men in little danger.
Combat was a game that the United States had asked Second Platoon to become very good at, and once they had, the United States had put them on a hilltop without women, hot food, running water, communication with the outside world, or any kind of entertainment for over a year. Not that the men were complaining, but that sort of thing has consequences. Society can give its young men almost any job and they'll figure out how to do it. They'll suffer for it and die for it and watch their friends die for it, but in the end, it will get done. That only means that society should be careful about what it asks for.
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