AccueilGroupesDiscussionsPlusTendances
Site de recherche
Ce site utilise des cookies pour fournir nos services, optimiser les performances, pour les analyses, et (si vous n'êtes pas connecté) pour les publicités. En utilisant Librarything, vous reconnaissez avoir lu et compris nos conditions générales d'utilisation et de services. Votre utilisation du site et de ses services vaut acceptation de ces conditions et termes.

Résultats trouvés sur Google Books

Cliquer sur une vignette pour aller sur Google Books.

Chargement...

Gènes, peuples et langues (1996)

par Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza

Autres auteurs: Voir la section autres auteur(e)s.

MembresCritiquesPopularitéÉvaluation moyenneMentions
669734,498 (3.83)19
Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza was among the first to ask whether the genes of modern populations contain a historical record of the human species. Cavalli-Sforza and others have answered this question--anticipated by Darwin--with a decisive yes. Genes, Peoples, and Languages comprises five lectures that serve as a summation of the author's work over several decades, the goal of which has been nothing less than tracking the past hundred thousand years of human evolution. Cavalli-Sforza raises questions that have serious political, social, and scientific import: When and where did we evolve? How have human societies spread across the continents? How have cultural innovations affected the growth and spread of populations? What is the connection between genes and languages? Always provocative and often astonishing, Cavalli-Sforza explains why there is no genetic basis for racial classification.… (plus d'informations)
Chargement...

Inscrivez-vous à LibraryThing pour découvrir si vous aimerez ce livre

Actuellement, il n'y a pas de discussions au sujet de ce livre.

» Voir aussi les 19 mentions

Affichage de 1-5 de 7 (suivant | tout afficher)
This is the second time around that I am reading this work. While the entire subject is a fascinating one, and I came with great expectations that this authoritative scholar of the field would throw light on many often tangled, usually controversial, questions, I cannot say that I am much better informed. Unfortunately, I feel that neither of the two facets - genetics and historical linguistics - have been given enough space. In some places, there seems to be an odd lapse into an almost Lamarckian mode of speech when talking of similarities between genetic and cultural evolution: "Culture resembles the genome in the sense that each one accumulates useful information from generation to generation" (page 176). Of course he is not really suggesting that genomes adapt according to the lived experience, but an unwary reader may fall into this sort of fallacious thinking. As a person from South Asia, I am obviously much taken up with the 'Aryan migration theory' (AMT, if you would like to capitalize), and the copy-book juxtaposition of genetics with ethnicity (racial types) and language(s), and I wish he had explored this case in more detail. One will have to look into more recent works on this subject. Finally, the book comes to a rather abrupt ending, leaving the reader a bit flummoxed about how to sysnthesize all the matter. ( )
  Dilip-Kumar | Jan 16, 2023 |
It’s not clear who comprises the intended audience for this book. It seems to have been intended as a more popular version of Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza’s magnum opus, the encyclopedic, fascinating, and unfortunately very expensive The History and Geography of Human Genes. It doesn’t succeed there; while, in the introduction, Cavalli-Sforza says


“I have tried to restrict my use of jargon to a minimum, and I have attempted to explain terms and methods unknown to the general public.”


he doesn’t get very far before he’s deep in eigenvalues and allele frequencies and principal component analysis. (To be fair, my graduate work was heavily dependent on PCA and a related technique called detrended correspondence analysis, and it’s all still something of a black box to me.) What’s more, this is a case where a picture or map is worth 1000 words, but Cavalli-Sforza only includes one PCA map (of Europe) and resorts to verbal descriptions of PCA for other continents.


Another drawback is the book was written from a series of lectures, and it shows. Individual chapters are self-contained and there’s no real flow through the book.


Nevertheless, there’s interesting stuff here. If you can’t afford The History and Geography of Human Genes or get it at a library, this may suffice if you read carefully. The first five principal components of human gene frequencies for Europe display quite nicely:


*The spread of agriculture from the Middle East


*Northward migration after the last glacial retreat (hmmm. You’d think that would be more important than agriculture, but maybe it has to do with the fact that agriculture allows for larger populations).


*The introduction of the horse - or, more correctly, the introduction of genes from horse nomads - spreading west from central Asia.


*Greek colonization around the Mediterranean, and


*The Basques versus everybody else.


Work like this is, of course, easily prone to charges of “racism”, so Cavalli-Sforza devotes a lot of time to saying nope, no races here, just human “groups” or “populations” with “genetic distance” between them. He almost protests too much. There are plenty of charts of “genetic distance” between (say) inhabitants of northeast Asia and central Africa that might make the politically correct reader sit up and take notice.


The whole last half of the book is about languages and their comparison with genetic data. This is interesting stuff, too, but most of it is over my head. I did learn that the oldest reconstructed word (I’m not at all sure how the reconstruction was done) is tik, meaning “finger” or “one”, and that most ancient words relate to counting and human body parts. One interesting exception is the word “lice”, which is also very old and, strangely, doesn’t figure very often in romance novels set in the Neolithic.


Three stars, I think. Jared Diamond’s Guns, Germs and Steel is more accessible and covers much the same ground. ( )
  setnahkt | Dec 9, 2017 |
This book is an easy-to-read well-craft tale written by an authoritative geneticist. The author shows how we can discover details of our shared pre-history – the time before writing. It is certainly fascinating to delve into the unknown. Evidence abounds because the past has imprinted itself upon the present. Thus one route is certainly through scant palaeological records. Yet our minds and bodies are themselves hosts to alternative windows on the past. Thus clues to our past are buried in our genes, our languages, our anatomy, our physiology and our cultures. This book takes us through the inferences we can draw from each strand of evidence. Indeed we can even calculate the statistical reliability of many individual conclusions. Naturally all conclusions hold speculations. Nonetheless the consistency of evidence from a range of independent sources gives us confidence in the generalities of the emerging picture.

As one might expect, this story has many lessons for the present and our anticipated future. Thus Cavelli-Svorza contextualizes the superficiality of race, the impacts of technological innovation, the progress of cultural interactions, and the tragedy of ignorance. ( )
1 voter Jewsbury | May 12, 2011 |
A good introductory reading on a fascinating subject by the world's leading population geneticist, summarizing in very-easy-to-follow narrative main findings of his research in the last four decades confirming the hypothesis that the human species is not divided into color-coded races. From the genetic point of view, the concept of different races is unscientific, the outward or physical differences exhibited by various ethnic groups are mere outward adaptation to different climates. He argues and attempts to show that there is a linkage between the evolution of genes and development of languages and cultures. Cavalli-Sforza introduces a lot of information, but only skims the surface which i found disappointing. He also tries too much to "laymanize" some concepts, which i felt perhaps lost a bit of scientific rigor. It does, however, point the reader to other sources, including his own more technical and comprehensive publications. ( )
  deebee1 | Oct 31, 2009 |
Poorly written or poorly translated. ( )
  leeinaustin | Jun 8, 2008 |
Affichage de 1-5 de 7 (suivant | tout afficher)
aucune critique | ajouter une critique

» Ajouter d'autres auteur(e)s (3 possibles)

Nom de l'auteurRôleType d'auteurŒuvre ?Statut
Cavalli-Sforza, Luigi Lucaauteur principaltoutes les éditionsconfirmé
Depardon, RaymondArtiste de la couvertureauteur secondairequelques éditionsconfirmé
Seielstad, MarkTraducteurauteur secondairequelques éditionsconfirmé

Appartient à la série éditoriale

Vous devez vous identifier pour modifier le Partage des connaissances.
Pour plus d'aide, voir la page Aide sur le Partage des connaissances [en anglais].
Titre canonique
Titre original
Titres alternatifs
Date de première publication
Personnes ou personnages
Lieux importants
Évènements importants
Films connexes
Épigraphe
Dédicace
Premiers mots
Citations
Derniers mots
Notice de désambigüisation
Directeur de publication
Courtes éloges de critiques
Langue d'origine
DDC/MDS canonique
LCC canonique

Références à cette œuvre sur des ressources externes.

Wikipédia en anglais (3)

Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza was among the first to ask whether the genes of modern populations contain a historical record of the human species. Cavalli-Sforza and others have answered this question--anticipated by Darwin--with a decisive yes. Genes, Peoples, and Languages comprises five lectures that serve as a summation of the author's work over several decades, the goal of which has been nothing less than tracking the past hundred thousand years of human evolution. Cavalli-Sforza raises questions that have serious political, social, and scientific import: When and where did we evolve? How have human societies spread across the continents? How have cultural innovations affected the growth and spread of populations? What is the connection between genes and languages? Always provocative and often astonishing, Cavalli-Sforza explains why there is no genetic basis for racial classification.

Aucune description trouvée dans une bibliothèque

Description du livre
Résumé sous forme de haïku

Discussion en cours

Aucun

Couvertures populaires

Vos raccourcis

Évaluation

Moyenne: (3.83)
0.5
1 2
1.5
2 3
2.5 2
3 20
3.5 8
4 38
4.5 5
5 20

Est-ce vous ?

Devenez un(e) auteur LibraryThing.

 

À propos | Contact | LibraryThing.com | Respect de la vie privée et règles d'utilisation | Aide/FAQ | Blog | Boutique | APIs | TinyCat | Bibliothèques historiques | Critiques en avant-première | Partage des connaissances | 204,792,252 livres! | Barre supérieure: Toujours visible