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Oranges and Lemons: Rhymes from Past Times

par Karen Dolby

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A nostalgic collection of some of the most well-known and best-loved nursery rhymes, reminding you of their words and exploring their origins and meanings. Everyone has their favourite nursery rhymes, learned when we were so young that we seem always to have known them and their instantly recognizable tunes and rhythms. For many, they were the first verses we heard, the first lines we learned by heart.Much more than simple verses for children, nursery rhymes are interwoven with our earliest memories and are part of our heritage. This beautiful collection examines the history of these rhymes, looking at how they have evolved through the centuries, and the controversies surrounding their origins.… (plus d'informations)
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I'm going to start by saying this is an excellent collection of nursery rhymes. All the rhymes from my childhood, both remembered and forgotten were here (I totally forgot that London Bridges falling down was also a game until I read it here), as well as many that were new to me.

Where I thought the book stumbled, was the author's attempt to include a bit of history for each one. Some of the rhymes are well documented, and these are interesting. Some of them just don't have any known origins and to the author's credit, she's forthright when no history is to be had, or what is is purely speculative. But the vast majority of the rhymes fall in between with several theories, a bit of scant information, and far too much speculating. And all that speculating can be summed up by saying "when in doubt, blame it on the aristocracy".

It seems 90% of the rhymes children grew up with are subversive pokes at royalty throughout the ages. Which would be interesting, if there were any documentation to back the assertions up, but if there is, the author wasn't privy it. I find it hard to believe myself, that anyone would spend their time and creativity writing up clever little ditties about kings and queens for children that weren't going to get it - or care about it if they did.

About half way through I started to have a similar reaction to these attempts at historical context as I do about people trying to explain art. Sometimes it's just a water-lily, or in this case, Little Boy Blue just needed a nap.

The book is a keeper for the collection it contains and the index it has in the back, making them easy to find. But if you're looking for the historical angle, I think it's a bit disappointing. ( )
1 voter murderbydeath | Jan 26, 2022 |
Sour and sweet.

That combination is what makes citrus fruits such as oranges and lemons tasty. And it's also what makes nursery rhymes intriguing. Many are sad, some are violent, but some are gentle and wise. As a whole, they have much to teach.

But they require context. In recent years, many writers have come forward to try to provide it. This is one such book. It offers more than one hundred rhymes (most of which would probably qualify as "nursery rhymes," whatever that means, although I would argue that some are folk songs proper rather than nursery songs). In each case there is a text, usually short and typically a modern version, with some explanation.

The explanations are usually short, and many are speculative -- although the speculation rarely comes from author Dolby herself; she is simply retelling other scholars' hypotheses. The result is usually readable, occasionally fascinating, rarely deep. If you want a truly scholarly list of the sources of nursery rhymes, Iona and Peter Opie's Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes remains the standard, and William S. Baring-Gould and Ceil Baring-Gould's The Annotated Mother Goose includes more texts. But this book has a nice topical organization and is relatively slender and easy to deal with it. Will it do for scholars? No. Will it give you a lot of material to read to your children? Assuredly. ( )
  waltzmn | Apr 23, 2014 |
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A nostalgic collection of some of the most well-known and best-loved nursery rhymes, reminding you of their words and exploring their origins and meanings. Everyone has their favourite nursery rhymes, learned when we were so young that we seem always to have known them and their instantly recognizable tunes and rhythms. For many, they were the first verses we heard, the first lines we learned by heart.Much more than simple verses for children, nursery rhymes are interwoven with our earliest memories and are part of our heritage. This beautiful collection examines the history of these rhymes, looking at how they have evolved through the centuries, and the controversies surrounding their origins.

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