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Nina Here Nor There: My Journey Beyond Gender

par Nick Krieger

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Honor Book for the 2012 Stonewall Book Awards in non-fictionnbsp; The next-generation Stone Butch Blues--a contemporary memoir of gender awakening and a classic tale of first love and self-discovery. Ambitious, sporty, feminine "capital-L lesbians" had been Nina Krieger's type, for friends that is.nbsp; She hadn't dated in seven years, a period of non-stop traveling--searching for what, or avoiding what, she didn't know. When she lands in San Francisco's Castro neighborhood, her roommates introduce her to a whole new world, full of people who identify as queer, who modify their bodies and blur the line between woman and man, who defy everything Nina thought she knew about gender and identity. Despite herself, Nina is drawn to the people she once considered freaks, and before long, she is forging a path that is neither man nor woman, here nor there. This candid and humorous memoir of gender awakening brings readers into the world of the next generation of transgender warriors and tells a classic tale of first love and self-discovery.nbsp; Discussion Guide for Book Clubs, Classrooms, and Group Discussions What did you know about transgender people before reading this book? How has your perspective changed? Did reading this book make you think about your own body, gender, and identity? In what ways?nbsp; How do you feel about the way Nina treats her parents? How about the way they treat her? How would you react if your child was transgender? What role does Ramona play innbsp;Nina's journey? How do you envision gender--a binary, spectrum, galaxy...? What are some of the benefits to our culture of gender? Some of the downfalls? How does the binary (man/woman) system help you? Hurt you? How do you relate to Nina's experience? In what ways is her story universal? Specific? In what parts of your life do you feel you are "privileged"? Have your privileges changed over time? Has this impacted your worldview? How is this book similar to other memoirs about gender? How is it unique? How does the diagnosis of Gender Identity Disorder and its classification as a mental illness affect trans people? What do you see as the main challenges for trans people in our society? Are these covered in the book, or are these from other sources and experiences? What did younbsp;learn through Thenbsp;Boys? How are their gendernbsp;expressions and decisions similar? Different?nbsp; Where do lesbian and transmasculine (trans people on the male side of the spectrum like The Boys) communities overlap? Where is there friction? What defines "women's spaces" and in what cases, instances, or places should transmasculine people be included? Excluded?… (plus d'informations)
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2 June 2016:
Five stars for how much of an impact this book had on me and how many times I read it; three is probably more accurate to how much it succeeds on its own terms.

4 September 2011:
First book I've bought in quite a while. I have a lot of ~*~feelings~*~ about this book which I'm not going to go into right now. Very recommendable. ( )
  caedocyon | Mar 6, 2024 |
A nice read about the thoughts of someone dealing with gender identity issues as a lesbian and who is considering top surgery ( )
  kevix | Dec 28, 2020 |
I picked this one up on a whim, partially because it's one of the shortlisted titles for the Indie Lit Awards this year, in the GLBTQ category. It is a refreshing new take on the transgender memoir by travel writer Nick Krieger, about his journey from Nina to Nick. This isn't a standard 'I was a woman, now I'm a man' tale, however - which is what makes it really stand apart from other books in the genre.

When Nick's transformation began - I saw it as a transformation rather than a transition, because it feels more triumphantly beautiful than the latter term implies - he was still Nina Krieger, a sporty lesbian surrounded by strong, feminine women she called her 'A-gays'. But when she moved to San Francisco's Castro neighbourhood, she was unexpectedly drawn into a whole new community. Here there were people who wore binders and 'packed', people who had surgery but didn't take hormones, people who took hormones but didn't have surgery: a surging, diversely queer group that took the traditional concepts of 'male' and 'female' and completely broke them down into a fluid and highly individual concern. In these new surroundings Nina finally found the means - and the confidence - to explore her own relationship to her body and her gender, in particular her complete detachment from her breasts and her preference for a male image.

While this may sound like a typical transition story, it really isn't. By the end of the book, Nina has become Nick, 'she' has taken on the pronoun 'he', and he has taken the huge (and long awaited) step of having top surgery to remove his breasts. Since then he has also taken testosterone to accentuate his male features. But Nick Krieger is not a man, nor does he want to be. As a genderfluid or gender variant individual, he is happiest at a personally determined point between male and female. And that, I think, is what makes this book so interesting. Krieger's exploration of his own body, values, relationships, assumptions and experiences invites the reader to do the same thing, regardless of who they are. There is no sense of 'It was terrible being this person, so I changed myself' - instead he writes with great positivity about his journey towards a full understanding and full expression of himself.

I really enjoyed it - and I think I might enjoy a reread even more, now that I have a better idea of who's who and know a little more about the author. It made me think about myself from a different perspective, and I found Krieger's honesty inspiring. He doesn't make sweeping statements about the transgender experience, but instead keeps his focus personal and subjective. It is a book about self-discovery and identity that I think everyone can learn from, and I like the fact that he charts this self-discovery one stage at a time. He never apologises for choosing to do something or not, for taking things slowly and perhaps making decisions later that he wouldn't have thought possible before. That, after all, is how people evolve. The book is often drily amusing, often quite moving, and always fascinating, and I'd recommend it to anyone with an interest in gender, sexual identity and LGBTQ literature. ( )
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Honor Book for the 2012 Stonewall Book Awards in non-fictionnbsp; The next-generation Stone Butch Blues--a contemporary memoir of gender awakening and a classic tale of first love and self-discovery. Ambitious, sporty, feminine "capital-L lesbians" had been Nina Krieger's type, for friends that is.nbsp; She hadn't dated in seven years, a period of non-stop traveling--searching for what, or avoiding what, she didn't know. When she lands in San Francisco's Castro neighborhood, her roommates introduce her to a whole new world, full of people who identify as queer, who modify their bodies and blur the line between woman and man, who defy everything Nina thought she knew about gender and identity. Despite herself, Nina is drawn to the people she once considered freaks, and before long, she is forging a path that is neither man nor woman, here nor there. This candid and humorous memoir of gender awakening brings readers into the world of the next generation of transgender warriors and tells a classic tale of first love and self-discovery.nbsp; Discussion Guide for Book Clubs, Classrooms, and Group Discussions What did you know about transgender people before reading this book? How has your perspective changed? Did reading this book make you think about your own body, gender, and identity? In what ways?nbsp; How do you feel about the way Nina treats her parents? How about the way they treat her? How would you react if your child was transgender? What role does Ramona play innbsp;Nina's journey? How do you envision gender--a binary, spectrum, galaxy...? What are some of the benefits to our culture of gender? Some of the downfalls? How does the binary (man/woman) system help you? Hurt you? How do you relate to Nina's experience? In what ways is her story universal? Specific? In what parts of your life do you feel you are "privileged"? Have your privileges changed over time? Has this impacted your worldview? How is this book similar to other memoirs about gender? How is it unique? How does the diagnosis of Gender Identity Disorder and its classification as a mental illness affect trans people? What do you see as the main challenges for trans people in our society? Are these covered in the book, or are these from other sources and experiences? What did younbsp;learn through Thenbsp;Boys? How are their gendernbsp;expressions and decisions similar? Different?nbsp; Where do lesbian and transmasculine (trans people on the male side of the spectrum like The Boys) communities overlap? Where is there friction? What defines "women's spaces" and in what cases, instances, or places should transmasculine people be included? Excluded?

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