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My vote is for Hoot, such a great book, such a horrid movie - though I did like some of the music
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that Dahl wrote the screenplay and okayed the changes. I wonder why he would do that? It is such a wonderful story the way it is? Strange.
If my memory serves (I read this book back in 4th or 5th grade), it didn't have a very happy ending at all. Does anyone know if they've changed the ending in the movie? My son wants to see it and I refuse to go unless I know if they've changed the ending or not.
are you even a kid?
how do you get to decide if it is good or not?
i HATED IT its so sappy and gross
well the new cheaper by the dozen has nothing to do with the story
34tommyngina Premier message
Getting Watership Down for christmas one year I was both horrified and rather interested in reading it. I haven't, but it looks good.
I used to rent some movie or another, and one of the trailers that was on at the beginning was Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. The trailer was enough to drive me out of my mind. Horrors! Thankfully I never saw it. Even now, I can call the theme song to mind with ease.
-The Grinch (the Jim Carrey one: love the Boris Karloff version)
-The Cat in the Hat (Mike Myers version)
-Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Johnny Depp version)
Disney versions of, well, any fairy tale:
-Beauty and the Beast
-The Little Mermaid
Mind you, on the last four, I'm not saying the movies themselves are no good: just that they bear almost no resemblance to the stories they came from.
For my opinion of the Eragon movie, check out my blog...too much to write here (it's a longish piece).
For me the worst book to children's movie is the Disney Hunchback of Notre Dame (not that the original book is a kids tale). I HATE how they changed the story into a happily ever after (I dislike The Little Mermaid for the same reason) and still think the scene with the dancing fire spirits is inappropriate for small children.
Read it. Watership Down was my favorite book for a very long time (the first book I ever turned back to page one and immediately started re-reading upon finishing it the first time). The movie leaves out a lot. I don't really think of WD as a kids book although I first read it in middle school. My husband read it aloud for the first time towards the end of my pregnancy and for the first few months after our daughter was born and really enjoyed it as well.
And, without giving anything away, I'll just tell those of you who are wondering, both the book and the movie of "Bridge to Terebithia" end the same way, in all the important ways. What's the point otherwise?
#42: I grew up with the Swiss Family Robinson movie that I think Disney made. An old favorite, although I have never read the book so that might make a difference.
Since then,every time I've tried to read it, I get the giggles so badly I have to give up. Still sophomoric, I guess.
(Neither did Cheaper by the dozen but the new cheaper by the dozen is prettyfunny)
This may be blasphemous but I am disappointed with the Harry Potter movies. They've completely left out all the humor of the books. I know it's suppose to be dark, etc., but the books have great humor in them that the movies simply ignore.
I also agree with the posters who could not enjoy the Wizard of Oz books. I had the same problem.
I stopped going to see the Harry Potter films: they weren't thrilling me any more. But one of the problems with them is that they sometimes try too hard to follow the book: the result is lots of little cameo set-pieces that readers may recognize, but make little sense in terms of the film.
The best book-to-film transfer I know is The Neverending Story. I thought the film was magical; the book seemed very ponderous in comparison, and at the point where the film stops, the book trundles on, getting more and more tedious.
There is nothing as magical as the original. Boris Karloff's reading on the animated TV special was pretty special - but even that version added some things. Why? The books is wonderful as it stands. When I read the book to my students, they want to tell me about the stuff the movies added. ARGH!!
I've been wanting to watch the movie version of Blood and Chocolate which was recently released on DVD. I'm totally keeping an open mind about it because everyone who has seen it has said it is completely different from the book.
All the magic and joy of the books were excised in favor of outlandish special effects and zany* slapstick, sometimes potty, humor.
*- I once read a film book that said anytime you see a review blurb on a film advertisement or video/DVD box use the word "zany" you know it's a horrid film.
OK, I think my little anti-Disney rant is over now .... phew! Sorry, Disney fans! :P
I also cannot stand the TV version of Little House on the Prairie. So saccharine.
ALL Disney adaptations are bad. End of story.
But without a doubt, the one that stands out as the WORST children's adaptation in the history of film is 'Pinnochio' with Roberto Benigni. My little brother cried.
Also, any see Bridge to Teribithia? I don't recall some of the things in the book that I saw in the previews.
Must be my old age creeping up!! hehe
Belles on their Toes, the sequel to Cheaper by the Dozen, took a fantastic story about a widow carrying on after her husband's death and applied the sensibilities of the era by marrying her, perpetuating the myth that a woman can't succeed without a man. And don't get me started about Steve Martin's update to Cheaper by the Dozen. I love Steve Martin, but I hated the movie.
My starry eyed idealism keeps me going to movies based on my favorite books, hoping for an adaptation that is true to its book, but many seem to miss the point of the stories their movies are based on.
I have to say that I did like the sound track album, but I don't think Mary would have sang the songs.
Has the movie industry done for the DIR what they originally wanted to do to Harry Potter and Americanized it? And how the hell does that work? All that celtic mythology transplanted across the pond? I have a bad feeling about this and I don't think that having Christopher Eccleston and Ian McShane in it is going to help...
Also, my 15 year old son thought the DIR trailer looked cheesy, although he thought the one for The Golden Compass looked intriguing. He hasn't read either book.
If The Dark rose in the US, it would be a completely different kind o' dark. It would either be an indigenous dark with native american imagery and symbols or it would be the chunky stew dark of folklore from all over (alla Neil Gaiman).
Is there an american children's book author who has written anything like this?
I do not intend to see this movie!
77carolannvan Premier message
I heard a rumour one time that Ende was so upset about the movie version that for a while there he refused to have his books translated into English. Anyone know anything about that?
And another thing, in the book the mermaids were close to being monsters but the movie showed them as playful. Disney made confectioners sugar out of one of my favorite stories!
Doesn't Disney do that to all of the fairy tales it turns into animated films? I have never read it, but I have heard that in The Little Mermaid, Ariel actually dies at the end.
What I hate is losing the essence of the story, as was the case in movies like The Neverending Story and Belles on their Toes that I mentioned above. (#66)
For some reason I felt personally offended by the Nancy Drew movie, and I have no idea why, considering I was never that attached to the books.
All the movies that have enraged me are adult (like 'Constantine.')
I saw the preview for Dark is Rising while seeing HP5 and after hearing my sister's righteous indignation next to me I went and checked out the series from the library. And now I share in her outrage...American?? And that is not AT ALL how I picture Merriman.
94JefferyEDoherty Premier message
Anne of Green Gables was a made-for-TV series, but it was a real disappointment.
To stay with Madeline L'Engle, there was a made-for-TV movie version of A Ring of Endless Light, maybe my favorite L'Engle book, awhile ago, and it was terrible. It starred the girl who played Marissa on The OC, if that means anything to someone (pre-OC) as Vicky. It turned a really great story about young people coming to terms with mortality, and made it into 'let's save dolphins from drift nets!11'. God, it still makes me angry to remember it.
#93 - Yeah, the best thing that happened to the Harry Potter series was being produced by Brits and having a largely UK cast. Hollywood tends to cast Americans regardless of what is indicated in the source material and rewrites the narratives to conform to the cliched writing audiences are used to (I'm told Gary Oldman's character did not say "Get away from my grandson" before punching the villain in the face like in the "Order of the Phoenix" film though). I'm an American by the way. I'm a big fan of the old Avengers series and the film version was a resounding, if not unexpected catastrophe.
104: Same here, on both of your points. Since Dobby was already cut out of movies 4 and 5, you just know he's not going to be in movie 7. $&%*$!!! I think the plot of book 6 is simple enough that they'll do a better job with it (or maybe I'm confused because I haven't reread it in a while), but movie 7 worries me the most.
I also heard they're cutting the last book into two movies, which makes me enormously happy.
I liked the third movie for exactly two reasons: the scene between Snape and Sirius, and Lupin's existence.
The fourth movie had some good scenes - Moody's teaching is one of my favorites.
My biggest worry for the last two movies is that they'll cut/change Snape's storyline. They already altered his worst memory bit, and he's SO vital for the last two books. Also I keep wondering how they're going to film the last two books. They're so violent! They should just give up and make the last two movies R. I maintain that the moment Cedric died in book 4, the series ceased to be aimed at children.
And that's what we call a caffeine-fueled rant.
No offense, but what's so wrong with music in a kids movie?? That's the way Disney intended it to be. Also, I do agree that it was much different than the original, but would you really want a 3-4 year old watching a movie where the main character dies? Sorry, I am just a huge Disney fan and I think he was an amazing storyteller, especially with taking old stories and making them his own.
changing the story so that her father didn't actually die after all!! One of the major points of major classics is that they portray situations that children need to learn to deal with in a figurative manner and in a way that draws the reader in. This book helps children deal with the issue of death of a parent, and to change that to wish fulfillment destroys the whole soul of the book!
And they did that with The Rats of NIMH too.
The animated version of The Hobbit
A Series of Unfortunate Events (but loved the animated credits at the end)
Movie version of How the Grinch Stole Christmas (love the animated version)
The worst though was Eragon, which appalled me so much I wouldn't even rate it with half a star. I felt really embarrassed for the author who wrote such an amazing book, which he began writing at the age of 15. An incredible accomplishment for someone so young only to have the movie version be so ghastly.
Can't believe the feedback on Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Own the book, but haven't read it yet so am not sure in relation to the comparison between book and movie, but my sisters, parents and I used to be glued to the television screen every Christmas when it was on and knew (and still do) the songs all by heart. It was the first children's movie I wanted to add to my collection because of my love for it as a child. Even if the book ends up being very different, I'll always love the movie.
I actually enjoyed watching Shrek even though there's hardly any resemblance to the picture book. At least I liked the first one--the others stunk. But then, I never really liked the book.
On the other hand I thought Holes was not a bad adaptation, better than I expected. And I like the Potter movies, even though large parts of some of the books are left out--but hey they are pretty lengthy books. Although I've never gotten over Peeves being left out completly left out.
Usually when I go to a movie I expect it to vary from the book; they are after all two different mediums. But they should at least bear SOME resemblance to the original story!
The new Cheaper By the Dozen has nothing to do with the book, except the title, and a bunch of kids. The original movie was much closer to the book. If Hollywood is going to make a movie that only uses the title of a book, they should just rename the movie! Steve Martin's movie was ok, it just wasn't Gilbreth's story at all. Of course, my personal theory is that there is no writing talent left in Hollywood, so that's why they give us what they do! Which of course explains why there is also so much ##$%%^ reality tv on television! Oh, sorry that's a rant!
>122 susan594: The Little White Horse was perhaps my very favorite book in junior high, and is still one of my favorite children's books. Looking at the movie description and trailer for "The Secret of Moonacre", it will only be bearable if we think of it as a completely different story. If then. Sounds like they murdered it as thoroughly as The Dark is Rising.
Matilda :I kinda like but I am mad that they Americanised it.
Wizard of Oz.
On the other hand some movies don't change anything and I hate them (eg) the BBC version of "Chronicles of Narnia the first three movies .maybe it was the acting and the actors and actresses most particularly the girl who played Lucy.
I guess it depends on who the director is.
The whole point of the book is Ella's struggle to lead a normal life. She can't do that because she has to do everything she is told. Even if the person doesn't mean it, she still has to do it. What if someone, in a fit of rage said, "Ella go kill yourself," she would have to do it. Or if someone horrible found out about the curse and made her do bad things. The movie made a joke out of it. They made it comical when it's horrible. Throughout the book she struggles to fight the curse. Her body knows if she doesn't do what she is told and she feels pain if she doesn't do it. And of course no matter how hard she fights she has to do it. The movie didn't show that.
So I would say, read the book, it's amazing. And sure, watch the movie. But don't expect the plot to be the same. Enjoy both as if they were completely separate things that happen to have the same title.
Was that a Disney effort?
Same with Alice in Wonderland!
Sigh. But yes, the 1973 animated Charlotte's Web did stick pretty well to the book, and Paul Lynde voicing Templeton was priceless.
There are plenty of chapter books out there which appeal to five-year-olds, there's no reason to turn lovely picture books into full-length movies.
This topic reminds me that usually the book is better than the film but sometimes the film is better. Two examples of s better film, to me, are Princess Bride and Candleshoe. The plots are similar but the films have more charm to us.
And I have to disagree with mabith. Even though it doesn't glorify the book I thought it was a touching story for the modern child with the same effect for the new generation that The Lorax had for the past.
Hollywood knows they'll never be able to capture the "magic" that was Dr. Seuss but I thought the animation was beautiful and as creative as Theo Geisel was I think he'd appreciate the artistic adaptation of it.
But those are just my opinions :)
Kids still love the Lorax. It's not like they're bored with the book or can't relate to it. It's had the same impact on my nieces and nephews that it had on my siblings and myself.
There's this idea that kids won't watch anything that isn't non-stop action and jokes, but that's just not true.
When my daughter was six, I bought and read the Wizard of Oz to her each night.
The book is so much more exciting than the movie could ever be (of course, the music makes up for some of the slack)
I was on the edge of the bed the whole time I was reading it to her. I even read ahead and finished it because I couldn't handle the suspense.
Hoot also, in my opinion lacked as a movie. I was disappointed after watching it.