Take It or Leave It Challenge - April 2022 - Page 1

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Take It or Leave It Challenge - April 2022 - Page 1

1SqueakyChu
Mar 26, 2022, 7:47 pm

For those new to this challenge: More info and monthly index can be found in post #1 of this thread or this TIOLI FAQS wiki.


...logo by cyderry

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*singing*

“April, come she will
When streams are ripe and swelled with rain…”
(Simeon and Garfunkel)

Your challenge for April, 2022, is to

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Read a book with a title in which the middle letter is also a letter in the word APRIL.
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Rules:

1. Use only the title, never the subtitle.
2. The book title MUST have an odd number of letters…or there will be NO middle letter!
3. List which number the letter is.
4. A number such as 1, 2, 3 which is part of the title can count as a “letter” for the sake of counting letters.
5. Punctuation will not count as a letter (hyphen, comma, apostrophe, etc.)

Examples:
# The Adolescent (6) by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
# Little Bee (5) by Chris Cleave
# The Memoirs of Elizabeth Frankenstein (17) by Theodore Roszak
# Rogue Lawyer (6) by John Grisham

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Other Fun Stuff (not part of the TIOLI challenge):
1. FAMeulstee's 2022 TIOLI Sweeplette Meter
2. FAMeulstee's Our TIOLI Sweeps
3. Morphidae's List of Previous TIOLI Challenges (2010-2016) - A reference (Do a control-F scan) to avoid repeating a previous challenge. If your idea is similar to a previous challenge, make it unique by adding a new "twist" to it.
4. Supplementary Thread - for off-topic chit-chat about almost anything! :D
5. The April 2022 TIOLI Meter - Optional page on which you may track your TIOLI reading. Not competitive--- just fun!

2SqueakyChu
Modifié : Avr 9, 2022, 4:01 pm

Index of Challenges:

Challenges #1-6
1. Read a book with a title in which the middle letter is also a letter in the word APRIL - msg #1
2. Read a book with a tie to a book you read in the first quarter. - msg #2
3. Read a book whose title includes a closed compound noun - msg #5
4. Read a book that has a number that is a million or greater in the title or subtitle - msg #4
5. Read a book whose title or author's name includes Abraham, Martin, or John - msg #9
6. Read a book recommended on Facebook or another public forum - msg #11

Challenges #7-12
7. Read a book whose title includes at least three one-syllable words - msg #15
8. Read a book with a repeated title word - msg #16
9. Read a book Longlisted for the Women's Prize this decade - msg #19
10. Read a book with fewer than 100 members listed on LT - msg #23
11. Read a book published in the 1970s OR aimed at the under 8s - msg #24
12. Read a book set in a country that is a member of the British Commonwealth - msg #44

Challenges #13-18
13. Read a book with a maritime setting - msg #45
14. Read a book where the numbers in the number of pages are in sequence - msg #49
15. Read a book with a link to Star Trek - msg #58
16. Read a book with a birthstone in the title - msg #66
17. Read a book for the Twenty Questions Rolling Challenge - msg #71
18. Read a book where a title or subtitle or a series name includes the word “chronicles" - msg #75

Hold your challenge until the May 2022 challenges are posted. Thanks!

3countrylife
Modifié : Avr 2, 2022, 7:43 pm

Challenge #2: Read a book that has a tie to a book you read in the first quarter.

As we start the second quarter of 2022, read a book in April which has a tie to a book you've read in the first quarter of this year. Note the tie, the book, and month read.

Ties not allowed:
same author
same audiobook reader
read for the same group read
ETA: also not accepted: a repeated title word

This should be a book to book tie. Shared/matched reads are fine.
ETA: I'm looking for more of a guts of the book tie.

Examples of allowed ties:
A Burning by Megha Majumdar, (told from 3 viewpoints, like A Town Called Solace - March)
The Children's Block / The Painted Wall by Otto Kraus, (husband of the actual Librarian of Auschwitz - February)
The Storyteller by Jodi Picoult, (Nazi hunters also in The Huntress - January)
A Suitable Boy by Vikram Seth (on the list in The Reading List - February)

4alcottacre
Modifié : Mar 26, 2022, 8:11 pm

Challenge #4: The "One in a Million" Challenge: Read a book that has a number that is a million or greater in the title or subtitle"

Examples:
The Lost by Daniel Mendelsohn, whose subtitle is "A Search for Six of Six Million"
Outwitting History by Aaron Lansky, whose subtitle is "The Amazing Adventures of a Man WHo Rescued a Million Yiddish Books"

5Chatterbox
Modifié : Mar 26, 2022, 8:39 pm

Challenge #3: Read a book whose title includes a closed compound noun

A compound noun is a NOUN (not an adjective!) that is made up of at least two other existing words, which can be nouns themselves, or adjectives, pronouns, etc. A CLOSED compound noun is one that is a single word – not hyphenated, not two words. For instance – housetop or pathway, not drive-in. And they have a meaning that is distinct from either of their two component words.

For the purposes of this challenge, the word MUST be in English (since the challenge involves English grammar.) Look at how the word is used. For instance, I plan to read The Island of Extraordinary Captives in April, and at first thought that ‘extraordinary” would qualify. It’s a compound word, but it’s not a noun – it’s an adjective. But happily “island” works just fine: is + land. Another book I can’t put in this challenge is Sleepwalk by Dan Chaon – it’s used as a verb here, not a noun, so it won’t fit.

For those reading a book in a foreign language: please translate your titles, and then see if there's a word that works. Shoot me a PM if you have any questions (I may see that more rapidly than I will a message on this thread after a few days have passed...)

You must use the whole word, not just part of it. The words must be distinct, and not overlap. (In other words, don’t use the last letter of the first word of your compound noun as the first letter of the second word.) And watch out for prefixes like “ex” or “sub” that don’t tend to exist independently. Yes, we talk about having an ex, but we usually mean an ex-husband or ex-girlfriend, and using “sub” might mean a submarine or a substitute. For the purpose of this challenge, these are abbreviations, not words.

You can find more information on compound nouns here:

https://www.englishgrammar101.com/module-1/nouns/lesson-6/compound-nouns
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Compound-Nouns.htm

Here are some books that I may read for this challenge, as examples:

Windswept (wind+swept)
Cannonball Tree Mystery (cannon+ball)
Beirut Hellfire Society (hell+fire)
The Matchmaker (match+maker)
Ten Masterpieces of Music (Master+pieces)
The Island of Extraordinary Captives (Is+land)
The Flight of the Heron (her+on)
Devil’s Bargain (Bar+gain)

6SqueakyChu
Modifié : Mar 26, 2022, 8:32 pm

>1 SqueakyChu: I can hear some of you now muttering, "Oh, no! Now she's making me count the title letters of all my books!" :D

>4 alcottacre: Outwitting History by Aaron Lansky, whose subtitle is "The Amazing Adventures of a Man WHo Rescued a Million Yiddish Books"

I loved that book so much! I was so driven by what the author did that I sent a donation to the Yiddish Book Center immediately upon finishing it. As an avid BookCrosser and a Little Free Library steward, I, too, try to save books for multiple readers.

>4 alcottacre: >5 Chatterbox: The number of the challenges are ONLY determined by their place on the wiki. Please do NOT change the numbering system. Thanks!

>5 Chatterbox: What allowances would you make for those of us who do not read books in English? Two of our challengers only read books in German and Dutch.

7alcottacre
Mar 26, 2022, 8:28 pm

>5 Chatterbox: Thanks for asking, Suzanne, but per Madeline, we are not going to switch. It is of no moment :)

8Chatterbox
Mar 26, 2022, 8:37 pm

>6 SqueakyChu: Anyone reading a book in German, Dutch, French or any other language would need to be sure that there's a word in the title as it is translated that is a compound noun that qualifies.

So, for instance, earlier this year I read Le suspendu de Conakry in French. Let's imagine (for the sake of argument/example) that "suspendu" meant hangman (and not hanged man!) in English. I'd imagine putting it something like this: (suspendu = hang+man).

I think most users can translate titles or run them through Google translate, but I'll be happy to pitch in if there's a question or issue.

Thanks for raising the point! And I'll amend the # of my challenge, above.

9lindapanzo
Mar 26, 2022, 8:46 pm

Challenge #5: Read a book with Abraham, Martin, or John in the title or the author's name

The other day, I heard the classic song, Abraham, Martin, and John and got to thinking about all the books I've got that could fit into this.

The name can be embedded so, for instance, a book about Lyndon Baines Johnson is fine.

However, it must be a complete Abraham, Martin, and/or John. No spelling variations or nicknames. So a book by Jon Hassler, for instance, would not count, nor would a book by a man named Marty or Abe.

10SqueakyChu
Mar 26, 2022, 8:57 pm

>8 Chatterbox: Thanks, Suz!

11Citizenjoyce
Mar 26, 2022, 9:01 pm

Challenge #6: Read a book recommended on Facebook or another public forum. I don't want to count any books recommended on LibraryThing or Goodreads. I've accumulated so many recommendations from Facebook that I need a place to put them all.

12Chatterbox
Modifié : Mar 26, 2022, 9:14 pm

>11 Citizenjoyce: Could this include the websites/FB pages of literary publications like LitHub or The Millions?

>9 lindapanzo: What about a book by Emily St. John Mandel? Through one set of eyes it's not embedded, but the "John" is connected to the "St."?

13lindapanzo
Mar 26, 2022, 9:16 pm

>12 Chatterbox: That name would be fine.

14Citizenjoyce
Mar 26, 2022, 9:26 pm

>12 Chatterbox: Yes, pretty much any public forum is fine except LibraryThing and Goodreads.

15susanna.fraser
Mar 26, 2022, 9:46 pm

Challenge #7: Read a book whose title includes at least three one-syllable words

A short, simple challenge for short, simple words.

16lyzard
Modifié : Mar 27, 2022, 12:03 am

Challenge #8:

Read a book with a repeated title word


Articles are *not* allowed; prepositions are okay (as the repeated word).

The repeated word may be in a subtitle. Embedded words allowed.

17alcottacre
Mar 26, 2022, 10:45 pm

>15 susanna.fraser: Do we get prizes if the author's name is only one syllable words as well? :)

18alcottacre
Modifié : Mar 26, 2022, 10:51 pm

>16 lyzard: We are not allowed to have articles in the title at all or as just one of the repeated words?

Also, if the word in the title is singular, but in the subtitle is plural, would that count?

19PaulCranswick
Mar 26, 2022, 10:55 pm

Challenge #9 - Read a book longlisted for the Women's Prize this decade

Three years and forty-eight books to choose from.

The longlists can be found easily here:
https://www.womensprizeforfiction.co.uk

20susanna.fraser
Mar 26, 2022, 11:51 pm

>17 alcottacre: You can give yourself a star! :-)

21lyzard
Mar 27, 2022, 12:03 am

>18 alcottacre:

Just not as the repeated word.

Embedded words fine, I'll add that to my post.

22alcottacre
Mar 27, 2022, 12:52 am

>20 susanna.fraser: Yay!

>21 lyzard: Thanks for the clarification, Liz.

23wandering_star
Modifié : Mar 27, 2022, 2:24 am

>16 lyzard: I was actually thinking about this for one of my possible challenges this month! What a coincidence.

So instead, here's Challenge #10 : Read a book with fewer than 100 members listed on LT

The number of members is listed above "your book information" at the top of the main page for the book. You can also see the number of members for the books in your library, over on the far right (at least, that is the case for my library view).

24Helenliz
Mar 27, 2022, 2:50 am

As part of my self serving year of challenges to read the last 50 years, try this one for size.

Challenge # 11 Read a book published in the 1970s OR aimed at the under 8s.

Being born in 72, I was under 8 at the end of the 1970s, so you can ether
Read a book published in the 1970s,
Or a book aimed at the under 8s (published in any decade),
with bonus points (but no prizes) for a book that fits both halves of the challenge.

In order to try and fill in some of the 1970s, I have started raising my childhood book shelves. This should be fun!

25Citizenjoyce
Modifié : Mai 12, 2022, 8:10 pm

My planned reads:
Challenge #1: Read a book with a title in which the middle letter is also a letter in the word APRIL - started by SqueakyChu
*✔Pale Rider - Laura Spinney (4.5)
Challenge #2: Read a book with a tie to a book you read in the first quarter. (Note the tie, the book, and the month read.) - started by countrylife
*✔The Copenhagen Trilogy: Childhood; Youth; Dependency - Tove Ditlevsen (5)
Challenge #3: Read a book whose title includes a closed compound noun - started by Chatterbox
Tinderbox: HBO's Ruthless Pursuit of New Frontiers - James Andrew Miller (3.5)
*✔Windswept: Walking in the Paths of Trailblazing Women - Annabel Abbs (4.5
Challenge #4: The "One in a Million" Challenge: Read a book that has a number that is a million or greater in the title or subtitle - Started by AlcottAcre
Challenge #5: Read a book whose title or author's name includes Abraham, Martin, or John - started by lindapanzo
*✔Sisters - Daisy Johnson (2.5)
Challenge #6: Read a book recommended on Facebook or another public forum, name the forum - started by Citizenjoyce
Amatka - Karin Tidbeck (4)
*✔Booth by Karen Joy Fowler (4.5)
Daughter of the Moon Goddess - Sue Lynn Tan (3.5)
Frontier Grit: The Unlikely True Stories of Daring Pioneer Women by Marianne Monson (4.5)
The Magician - Colm Tóibín (4.5)
The Nine: The True Story of a Band of Women Who Survived the Worst of Nazi Germany by Gwen Strauss (5)
The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt
Challenge #7: Read a book whose title includes at least three one-syllable words - started by susanna.fraser
*✔There Is Nothing for You Here: Finding Opportunity in the Twenty-First Century by Fiona Hill (4)
Challenge #8: Read a book with a repeated title word - started by lyzard
*✔Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett (4)
Challenge #9 : Read a book Longlisted for the Women's Prize this decade - started by PaulCranswick
*✔The Paper Palace - Miranda Cowley Heller (3)
*Sorrow and Bliss - Meg Mason
*✔Small Pleasures - Clare Chambers (4.5)
Challenge #10 : Read a book with fewer than 100 members listed on LT - started by wandering_star
The Devil Wears Scrubs by Freida McFadden (3.5)
*Looking for the Good War: American Amnesia and the Violent Pursuit of Happiness- Elizabeth Samet
The Nurse - JA Corrigan (3.5)
Challenge #11: Read a book published in the 1970s OR aimed at the under 8s - started by helenliz
Challenge #12: Read a book set in a country that is a member of the British Commonwealth - started by DeltaQueen
A Great Deliverance - Elizabeth George
Challenge #14: Read a book where the numbers in the number of pages are in sequence - started by FAMeulstee
Nightbitch - Rachel Yoder (4)
Challenge #15: Read a book with a link to Star Trek - started by JeanneD
The Actual Star by Monica Byrne
Challenge #16: Read a book with a birthstone in the title (add the month) - started by Carmenere
Challenge #17: Read a book for the Twenty Questions Rolling Challenge (add the answer) - started by Morphidae
South to America: A Journey Below the Mason-Dixon to Understand the Soul of a Nation - Imani Perry (3.5)
Whose Names Are Unknown - by Sanora Babb (5)

26lindapanzo
Mar 27, 2022, 5:40 am

>23 wandering_star: Why didn’t I think of this? A good percentage of my reading fits into this category.

27lyzard
Mar 27, 2022, 6:32 am

>23 wandering_star:

Sorry about that but hopefully it means you have a bunch of books for that challenge!

>26 lindapanzo:

ALL of my reading fits that category! :D

28IsabelDunrossil
Mar 27, 2022, 7:08 am

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29PaulCranswick
Mar 27, 2022, 7:23 am

Reading Plans So Far as I want to start off the second quarter with another sweep of challenges.

TIOLI #1. - Pilgrims Way by Abdulrazak Gurnah
TIOLI #2. - The Late Sun by Christopher Reid
TIOLI #3. - The Saddlebag by Bahiyyih Nakhjavani
TIOLI. #4. - Billion Dollar Whale by Tom Wright
TIOLI #5. - Sisters by Daisy Johnson
TIOLI #6. - Fault Lines by Emily Itani
TIOLI #7. - The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark
TIOLI #8. - The Sea, The Sea by Iris Murdoch
TIOLI. #9. - The Paper Palace by Miranda Cowley Heller / The Sentence by Louise Erdrich
TIOLI #10 - The Walking by Laleh Khadivi
TIOLI #11 - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams

30FAMeulstee
Mar 27, 2022, 7:53 am

>27 lyzard: I doubt A Murder of Quality falls into #10. We have a plan this month ;-)
The book is on its way.

31raidergirl3
Mar 27, 2022, 10:50 am

>19 PaulCranswick: great challenge Paul, thanks!
I would join you for The Paper Palace but I'm in a 'at least 6 months' waiting list at my library.

32PaulCranswick
Mar 27, 2022, 10:54 am

>31 raidergirl3: I am not sure what the postal service is like in Colombia but I could try and send you a copy?

33raidergirl3
Modifié : Mar 27, 2022, 10:58 am

>32 PaulCranswick: No, that's okay. I'm waiting for an audiobook. I can't imagine the cost and time to mail from Malaysia to PEI! But thank you so much for the offer.
If it makes the shortlist, I might look into a kindle copy.

34PaulCranswick
Mar 27, 2022, 11:03 am

>33 raidergirl3: I would have ordered it you from Book Depo and I don't think that they charge for postage but it may take a month or so to reach you which rather defeats the objective.

35alcottacre
Mar 27, 2022, 11:38 am

>24 Helenliz: What? No prizes?? Hmph :)

36Chatterbox
Mar 27, 2022, 12:38 pm

>24 Helenliz: Wow, thanks for a trip back down memory lane! The 1970s was the decade that I moved three times (back to Canada from the UK, then to Belgium, then back to Canada to start university in 1979). I worked in the north of France as a tour guide during the summer of 1978, and remember devouring Lady Oracle by Margaret Atwood on a particularly miserable car trip through France and Switzerland the summer that Elvis Presley died. In 1970, I was still reading mostly children's books (I was 8 years old) but within a few years I was reading a mix of what today would be called YA and adult books. I read the first books by favorite authors, like Rumer Godden, devoured historical fiction and acquired my taste for mysteries. My grandfather gave me my first Dorothy Sayers novel, Gaudy Night. It's astonishing/remarkable how just reviewing a list of books from that era can bring back memories so vividly. I'll do one or two sentimental re-reads, but also try to read books that I missed out on or passed over at the time.

37lyzard
Mar 27, 2022, 4:52 pm

>30 FAMeulstee:

Looks like we're good to go with #5, though, if that suits you?

38FAMeulstee
Mar 27, 2022, 5:03 pm

>37 lyzard: Perfect, I will add it there.

39wandering_star
Modifié : Mar 27, 2022, 5:09 pm

>27 lyzard: Don't apologise, I was delighted!

>26 lindapanzo:, >27 lyzard: LOL. I actually have a tag for books which I am the first person to add to LT ("I have it and you don't")

40lindapanzo
Mar 27, 2022, 5:36 pm

>39 wandering_star: I should do something like that. For many of my books, whether not yet released or else obscure, I'm the first person to add the book.

41alcottacre
Mar 28, 2022, 2:34 pm

>15 susanna.fraser: I apologize for the two books I put on the challenge that have titles that are only two words long. When I realized what I had done, I went to remove them only to find that you had beat me to it. I did add a five word one-syllable title to the challenge to get back in your good graces :)

42Chatterbox
Mar 28, 2022, 7:06 pm

It would be fun to have a challenge that suggested people read a book that only they had in their libraries. It would be lousy for shared challenges, but might generate some fun book bullets!

43susanna.fraser
Modifié : Mar 28, 2022, 7:59 pm

>41 alcottacre: No worries!

44DeltaQueen50
Modifié : Mar 29, 2022, 1:17 pm

Challenge #12: Read a book that is set in a country that is a member of the British Commonwealth

Countries of the British Commonwealth can be found listed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Nations

**Please note that the United Kingdom consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland

For this challenge please use countries that are currently Commonwealth members - but if the country was known by another name at some point, it can still be used.

If your book is set in multiple countries, as long as one of the countries is a Commonwealth member, it will fit the challenge.

45avatiakh
Mar 28, 2022, 9:59 pm

Challenge #13: Read a book with a Maritime setting

Hope this one gets a few takers - I'll be fairly easy on what to include but no rocket ships please.

46Chatterbox
Mar 29, 2022, 1:05 am

>45 avatiakh: NO ROCKET SHIPS??? What is the world coming to....

47PaulCranswick
Mar 29, 2022, 1:35 am

>44 DeltaQueen50: So countries of the British commonwealth will include the UK or not, or is it other than the UK, Judy?

48Helenliz
Mar 29, 2022, 5:03 am

>35 alcottacre: Would prizes make a difference? Not that I'd be providing any, based on current book entries... In which case, right now, yes, there will be prizes. >;-)

49FAMeulstee
Modifié : Mar 29, 2022, 6:07 am

Challenge #14: Read a book where the numbers in the number of pages are in sequence

Lowest number first, next ones increasing. Put the number of pages in the wiki.

50avatiakh
Mar 29, 2022, 6:35 am

>46 Chatterbox: Lol. When I googled for booklists featuring ships, all the suggestions were scifi.

51raidergirl3
Mar 29, 2022, 7:03 am

>45 avatiakh: I live in the region called ‘the Maritimes’ (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and PEI) so that was my first thought when I saw your challenge. So would a book set in these provinces work for your challenge? They are all surrounded by water.
I don’t have a book in mind, just wondering.

52avatiakh
Mar 29, 2022, 8:16 am

>51 raidergirl3: That would be ok if you do find one.

53alcottacre
Modifié : Mar 29, 2022, 11:47 am

>49 FAMeulstee: Anita, as I understand this challenge it is an ascending sequence? The books on the wiki thus far as descending. Please clarify. The titles on the wiki are in alphabetical order. Maybe page order number would be better for this particular challenge? Thanks!

54DeltaQueen50
Modifié : Mar 29, 2022, 1:16 pm

>47 PaulCranswick: Hi Paul. Any country that is currently a member of the Commonwealth is eligible, I listed the UK countries because there is sometimes some confusion about which part of Ireland is included.

Also if the book is set in more than one country, it will fit the challenge as long as one of the countries is a Commonwealth member.

55swynn
Mar 29, 2022, 2:39 pm

>4 alcottacre: For this challenge, is "infinity" a number?

56alcottacre
Mar 29, 2022, 3:38 pm

>55 swynn: It is bigger than a million, so infinity is fine!

57FAMeulstee
Modifié : Mar 29, 2022, 4:31 pm

>53 alcottacre: We keep the wiki alphabetical.
I mean the individual numbers within the page number, the first should be the lowest and the last the highest, like in 123, or 124, or 358.
Your two entries don't fit, 596: nine is higher than 6; and 655 five is not higher than 5

58jeanned
Mar 29, 2022, 5:32 pm

*****CHALLENGE #15: READ A BOOK WITH A LINK TO STAR TREK*****

Our 5th grandchild was born on Sunday. They're considering Dax as a name. I don't think they would be if they were aware of the link to Star Trek. Since I think it's an awesome name, I'm remaining mum in the real-world. Here, I'm definitely rooting for Dax over Wyatt.

For this challenge, read a book with a link to Star Trek. A Trekkie character, an author named Gene, the word 'star' in the title...whatever you find. Mention the link in the wiki.

59alcottacre
Mar 29, 2022, 5:59 pm

>57 FAMeulstee: I completely misunderstood the challenge. I thought it was the page number for each book, not the numbers within the page numbers for a book itself. Thank you for the clarification. I will remove those two from the wiki.

60FAMeulstee
Mar 29, 2022, 6:02 pm

>59 alcottacre: Sorry I wasn't more clear at first, Stasia.

61alcottacre
Mar 29, 2022, 6:13 pm

>58 jeanned: Congratulations on the new grandbaby, Jeanne!

>60 FAMeulstee: No worries, I have it straight now. Madeline had already moved my entries of the wiki into the "Stasia is disqualified from this challenge" area. I am getting put into time out a lot this month, lol.

62alcottacre
Modifié : Mar 29, 2022, 6:52 pm

>15 susanna.fraser: Can we use the subtitle or not?

Never mind. April must be my month to be an idiot. *sigh*

63Citizenjoyce
Mar 29, 2022, 6:46 pm

>61 alcottacre: " I am getting put into time out a lot this month" - every time it happens to me I'm shocked. I frequently fail to pay attention to details.

64alcottacre
Mar 29, 2022, 6:48 pm

>63 Citizenjoyce: Yeah, that seems to be my problem this month. That and misunderstanding the challenge itself. Lol

65SqueakyChu
Mar 29, 2022, 8:31 pm

>61 alcottacre: LOL! It's just easier to see there, plus it's also a visual cue for others who might make the same mistake.

66Carmenere
Modifié : Mar 29, 2022, 10:07 pm

Challenge #16: Read a book with a birthstone in the title (add the month) - started by Carmenere

Here is a link from the International Gem Society https://www.gemsociety.org/article/birthstone-chart/

Traditional or modern is acceptable as are embedded stones.

67alcottacre
Mar 29, 2022, 10:55 pm

>65 SqueakyChu: Yeah, sure. I think everyone is just picking on me, lol

>66 Carmenere: Will subtitles work, Lynda, or must the birthstone be in the title proper?

68Carmenere
Mar 30, 2022, 10:24 am

>67 alcottacre: Yes, Stasia. Subtitles are acceptable.

69Morphidae
Mar 30, 2022, 10:37 am

Oh, dear. Here I come with one of my usual wordy challenges, late in the game even, and everyone has a foggy brain. (Including me. Why do you think it took this long?)

70swynn
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 10:43 am

>56 alcottacre: Thanks Stasia! "Is infinity a number?" is a question that sometimes ignites surprisingly heated Internet arguments, so I wanted to check first.

(For the record, my position on the question is, "It depends.")

71Morphidae
Modifié : Mar 31, 2022, 11:40 am

For my ongoing theme of twos in 2022, we are going to "play 20 questions."

#17 Read a book for the Twenty Questions Rolling Challenge

Read a book that can answer the question, "Animal, Mineral or Vegetable, Person, Place, Thing?"

==> The "answer" can be in the TITLE or on the COVER for all six questions. It can be in the author's name for all except for PERSON (else all books are eligible!) It can be in the TEXT for Mineral. It can be the SETTING for Place.

Please state the "answer" (i.e. butterfly, dishpan, queen, St. Paul, emerald) and if it's from the title, cover, person, text (also page # or location), or setting in your wiki entry.

The questions do not have to be filled in in order but they all have to be filled in before the next set can be added.

For this challenge, plurals are allowed, embedded words are not.

I have a cover thread to post your book(s) if you wish to.

* Animal - any living thing from the kingdom Animalia or Protista (e.g. algae) (or fantasy/sci-fi equivalent) that does not fit Person, i.e. no culture or community

* Mineral - a solid that comes from the earth such as rocks, stones, minerals, gems, ore. In addition, I will accept ice (because Wiki says it's a mineral - it's a solid with a crystalline structure, etc.)

* Vegetable - any living thing from the kingdom Plantae or Fungi (or fantasy/sci-fi equivalent) such as a tree, bush, flower, grass, mushroom, etc.

==> Person - any person, alien, humanoid, etc. (Author's names do not qualify for this question.)

==> Place - factual or fictional, includes cities, states/provinces, countries, continents, geographical terms (delta, fjord), and buildings/landmarks.

==> Thing - any item not previously mentioned like a coffee cup, a book, a train, parts of people like a mouth or pair of feet, a seashell, etc.

72Carmenere
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 11:41 am

>71 Morphidae: Hmmm, I don't think I followed directions for the place category. Does my entry need to be about two places?
I think so, so I'll remove Elvis in Vegas

73Morphidae
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 11:46 am

>72 Carmenere: Yes, it needs to be set at least 25% in two separate places, i.e. it could be set in three places but the minimum mix would be 25%/25%/50% (approximately. )

74Carmenere
Mar 30, 2022, 11:48 am

>73 Morphidae: Gotcha, Thanks. I think this book is 100% Vegas.

75dallenbaugh
Mar 30, 2022, 1:07 pm

Challenge #18: Read a book where a title or subtitle or a series name includes the word “chronicles”

Please list the series name. It does not have to be a series, but then the word "chronicles" needs to be in the title or subtitle.

76alcottacre
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 2:14 pm

>71 Morphidae: If we are choosing places, do they have to be real ones? A Symphony of Echoes, which I was thinking of adding to the challenge, is set at St. Mary's (not a real place), 19th century London and Canterbury Cathedral (15th century, I think?).

77Chatterbox
Mar 30, 2022, 1:37 pm

>71 Morphidae: LOLing about willing and able to procreate... I'm assuming that two women and/or two men would be OK? It wouldn't have to be one person with XX chromosome and one with XY? (Sorry to be nitpicky...)

78Carmenere
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 2:07 pm

Nevermind

79Morphidae
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 4:19 pm

>76 alcottacre: Nope. Factual or Fictional is fine, I'll add it.

>77 Chatterbox: No. But only because if it's two people it goes under PERSON. I'll clarify the instructions.

As far as the "able and willing" is concerned, it was not my intent to imply -anything- about sexual or gender mores. But rather it was the easiest way for me to describe things like my example. For instance, an ant and a spider would not qualify as "two bugs" but "two ants" would.

80alcottacre
Mar 30, 2022, 4:26 pm

>79 Morphidae: Thank you for the clarification, Morphy.

81raidergirl3
Mar 30, 2022, 4:32 pm

>75 dallenbaugh: Ooh, I've been trying to find a spot for my library book, Lucifer's Harvest: The Chronicles of Hugh de Singleton, Surgeon last month and this and now it has a home. Thank you!

82dallenbaugh
Mar 30, 2022, 4:34 pm

>81 raidergirl3: Glad to oblige

83alcottacre
Mar 30, 2022, 4:54 pm

>81 raidergirl3: I love it when things fall into place like that!

I am still trying to find a place for Castle of Wizardry by David Eddings for the Belgariad group read we have going this year as well as Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth by Reza Aslan for the Asian Authors challenge. Neither of them qualify for the page number challenge. Anyone have any suggestions?

84lyzard
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 5:44 pm

>15 susanna.fraser:

Susanna, for your challenge do hyphenated words count as one word or two?

ETA: Also, please see >87 lyzard:

85lyzard
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 5:34 pm

>83 alcottacre:

I count 6 one-syllable words in the second title.

I also see two of-s... :D

86alcottacre
Mar 30, 2022, 5:40 pm

>85 lyzard: Unfortunately, because of the word Zealot in the title, it will not work for the one-syllable word challenge; however, it will work for the repeated word challenge. Thanks, Liz!

87lyzard
Mar 30, 2022, 5:44 pm

>86 alcottacre:

Are we banned from using the subtitle in that challenge? I missed that.

You're welcome to my totally non-self-serving advice! :D

88alcottacre
Mar 30, 2022, 5:48 pm

>87 lyzard: The Challenge reads "Read a book whose title includes at least three one-syllable words," so I took it to mean that subtitles were not included. It is OK - you found a place for it :)

89Morphidae
Mar 30, 2022, 5:57 pm

>83 alcottacre: You could put it in my challenge under PERSON (two people) or THING (two red leaf decorative elements, two red roofs on the castle.)

90Morphidae
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 6:39 pm

>76 alcottacre: >77 Chatterbox: >79 Morphidae:

I've edited my challenge to clarify these points. Thanks!

91alcottacre
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 7:06 pm

>89 Morphidae: The cover of the book that I have does not have either of those things, Morphy. Mine has a crystal ball with a tower and mountains showing in it. I cannot find a picture to post.

92Morphidae
Modifié : Mar 30, 2022, 9:16 pm

>91 alcottacre: Dang that is a tough one. I was feeling all cocky as I went covering hunting, figuring I'd be back in 5 minutes with a cover, no problem. (Okay, more like 10 or 15. I *was* hoping down a Rabbit Hole.)

But you weren't kidding. I've looked at a few dozen covers and nary a one has a crystal ball AND a tower AND a mountain. Oh, I could find a combination of two of them (usually the last two) but never all three.

I felt a little 🐑 🐑 🐑 -ish

I'll keep trying but it might be tomorrow.

Though meanwhile, perhaps you could upload a pic of your cover?

93Morphidae
Mar 30, 2022, 10:28 pm

For my challenge, I edited two entries and disqualified one (my fault for missing the "two" qualifier for one of the questions - the other five had it.) For the edited entries, I simplied made the qualifying items more specific to separate them from similar items.

>71 Morphidae: I've added the following near the top of my challenge to further clarify (Why does this woman have to make things so complicated? 🤪 Sheesh!)

For a COVER, there must be two and ONLY two of the qualifying items. You can be creative in how you describe them. For TEXT, the words must be on the same page (i.e. within 300 words) of each other. For a SET(TING), each of the two settings must take up at least 25% of the book.

I also underlined, "For all items, they can be the ONLY two items of that particular type to count. In other words, for Animal, there can't be a flock of a dozen or more of the same bird," for emphasis.

(If you think this is complicated, you should see what it's like inside her head! 🤣 )

94Chatterbox
Mar 30, 2022, 11:00 pm

>93 Morphidae: I think the mineral might be particularly tricky!

Can anyone suggest a place where The Missing of Clairdelune by Christelle Debos might fit?? Too many syllables, more than 100 people, doesn't fit Morphy's categories, etc...

BTW. is it weird that I've already identified my challenge for MAY?

95susanna.fraser
Mar 30, 2022, 11:36 pm

>84 lyzard: >87 lyzard: For purposes of my challenge, a hyphenated word counts as a single word, and the subtitle counts as part of the title.

96lyzard
Mar 30, 2022, 11:40 pm

>95 susanna.fraser:

Thanks! (And dang!)

97alcottacre
Modifié : Mar 31, 2022, 1:06 am

>94 Chatterbox: Well, I took a stab at trying to find a place for your challenge, but was unsuccesful, unless maybe you read a book about French food (since Chateaubriand is one). Sorry!

May? I have gotten challenges lined up through December, Suzanne. I think I might be taking the TIOLI challenges a little too seriously! They help me read books off the shelf though, so that is all to the good.

98alcottacre
Modifié : Mar 31, 2022, 12:51 am

>92 Morphidae: Morphy, I loaded the picture of my cover from here on LT, which I was not sure was going to work.

99Morphidae
Modifié : Mar 31, 2022, 1:02 am

>94 Chatterbox: Let me think on it a bit. I think I'll do something with text.

>98 alcottacre: Oh! Okay. I've seen that one. I was looking at the background not in the crystal ball!

100alcottacre
Mar 31, 2022, 1:08 am

>99 Morphidae: Yeah, that is why I mentioned that the crystal ball has the mountain and castle in it. Still, I do not see that it qualifies for your challenges, so I am still hunting for a home for it.

101SqueakyChu
Mar 31, 2022, 1:18 am

>97 alcottacre: I have gotten challenges lined up through December, Suzanne. I think I might be taking the TIOLI challenges a little too seriously!

...and I don't have any challenges in mind until I find that I'm due to post a new challenge at the end of the month! So much for thinking ahead. Ha! Maybe I don't take the TIOLI challenges seriously enough?! ;)

102Morphidae
Mar 31, 2022, 1:23 am

>100 alcottacre: It will in a little bit. I'm simplifying my challenge. Castle will qualify for Place. I think Place is open. Enter it there and all will become clear shortly...

103Morphidae
Modifié : Mar 31, 2022, 2:21 am

~☆~ ATTENTION: TIOLIers ~☆~

I've completely rewritten my challenge. It's the same basic theme but simplified. With any luck this will make it easier to understand and play.

Everyone who entered a book is still qualified and for the same "question." The one person who I disqualified, now qualifies and I will correct it.

>71 Morphidae:

104susanna.fraser
Mar 31, 2022, 1:06 pm

>103 Morphidae: Thank you! I have to admit I was sufficiently intimidated/confused by the original version I was planning to skip it altogether unless I saw a chance at a shared read.

105Chatterbox
Mar 31, 2022, 1:35 pm

>103 Morphidae: If I'm correct in my assumption that we don't have to have a PAIR of things, but simply one, I am heaving a giant sigh of relief!!

106alcottacre
Mar 31, 2022, 2:26 pm

>102 Morphidae: I have entered it under Place as you suggested, Morphy. Thank you!

107Morphidae
Mar 31, 2022, 7:00 pm

>104 susanna.fraser: That was why I changed it. If there was that much confusion, it was an issue with the challenge itself.

It's not like I'm known for writing huge walls of text to explain my challenges or anything...

Oh, do be quiet back there in the peanut gallery. It's not -that- funny.

...

Stop.Laughing!


>105 Chatterbox: That is correct. No pairs are needed. The connection to the "two" theme for "20"22 is 20 Questions alone.

108Chatterbox
Mar 31, 2022, 7:08 pm

Morphy, not laughing. (OK, chortling a bit, but I'll take whatever humor I can get these days!) And thanks for the clarification atop the clarification. *grin*

109Morphidae
Mar 31, 2022, 9:50 pm

>108 Chatterbox: You're welcome. Just let me know if you need me to further clarify the clarification of the clarification. We clear?

🤣🤣🤣

110Carmenere
Avr 1, 2022, 7:40 am

>109 Morphidae: Hehehe, It sounds like Elvis in Vegas is back in the building, correct?

111Chatterbox
Avr 1, 2022, 2:43 pm

>109 Morphidae: Let me just go bash my head against a wall and I'll let you know... (chortle)

112lyzard
Modifié : Avr 1, 2022, 7:13 pm

Oh dear, more questions:

>3 countrylife:

Cindy, for your challenge is a repeated title word an acceptable tie?

>5 Chatterbox:

Suz, are proper nouns or invented words acceptable for your challenge? I have both a place name and a nickname that technically quality but they are not straightforward compound nouns.

113Morphidae
Avr 1, 2022, 11:05 pm

>110 Carmenere: Elvis is in the building!

>111 Chatterbox: WAIT!

Let me put this large, thick fluffy pillow that a tank couldn't get through between you and the wall...

OKAY! CLEAR! Let the head bashing commence!

114Chatterbox
Avr 1, 2022, 11:42 pm

>112 lyzard: -- I wasn't going to allow proper nouns, but then (briefly) someone added Hamnet, which made me LOL so much that I changed my mind. So yes, go for it with proper nouns. But no invented words please!!

>113 Morphidae: Thanks for the pillow. That feels so much less painful -- wonder why I never thought of it before?!?

115lyzard
Avr 2, 2022, 5:42 pm

116countrylife
Avr 2, 2022, 7:41 pm

>112 lyzard: -- I'm going to say "no" to the repeated title word. I'm looking for more of a guts of the book tie. Sorry!

(Added to original post.)

117lyzard
Avr 4, 2022, 5:38 pm

>116 countrylife:

So more of a thematic tie? Okay, thanks!

118FAMeulstee
Avr 6, 2022, 11:40 am

I haven't found a place for Small Things Like These (Dit soort kleinigheden) by Claire Keegan, 111 pages, 264 memebers.
Any suggestions?

119raidergirl3
Avr 6, 2022, 12:11 pm

>118 FAMeulstee: I’m planning this one too! I was going to put it in the one syllable challenge. Or Commonwealth if I check the author’s nationality. I’ll add it wherever you do.

120FAMeulstee
Avr 6, 2022, 12:49 pm

>119 raidergirl3: I don't think Ireland is part of the Commonwealth now. I wasn't sure about the one syllable challange, to my Dutch eyes only two words are one syllable.

121raidergirl3
Avr 6, 2022, 12:57 pm

>120 FAMeulstee: no, that’s 4 one syllable words.

122FAMeulstee
Avr 6, 2022, 1:00 pm

>121 raidergirl3: Then I will put it in challenge #7.

123SqueakyChu
Modifié : Avr 7, 2022, 11:29 am

TIOLI Question of the Month:

Who here (besides myself!) takes notes on books you read? Which was the last book you did this with (in this or any previous month)? What kind of notes did you take, and why?

124alcottacre
Avr 7, 2022, 11:53 am

>123 SqueakyChu: Not notes, per se, but I regularly mark my books with post-it notes as I read, so that I can go back and consult passages when I am finished with the book. I also tend to argue with authors and make notes on my post-it notes. I do this all the time - the last book I did it with is one I finished just yesterday, The Sentence by Louise Erdrich.

125SqueakyChu
Modifié : Avr 7, 2022, 12:01 pm

>123 SqueakyChu: I am forever taking notes on my books as I read. I keep my notes on my iphone until I finish each book, and then I erase them.

I'm not sure if this is due to my advanced age, but I love doing this. I find this information helpful. Some things I write down are characters, plot points, thoughts, and vocaculary words. I sometimes use the characters to add to LT's Common Knowledge. I definitely use my written-down thoughts to help me formulate a book review after I complete each book. I pretty much do this with all the books I read.

126FAMeulstee
Avr 7, 2022, 1:03 pm

>123 SqueakyChu: I never take notes while reading a book. Once in a blue moon I might stick a bookmark at a page with a notable sentence. Usually I forget to look at it when I write my short review.

I hate it when there are notes or underlinings in a library book. Recently I spend over an hour erasing penciled underlines and notes in the marge in a library book. I could not read on with them on the pages. I have returned books unread where underlinings where not erasable.

127Kristelh
Avr 7, 2022, 1:07 pm

I had a reading journal and I take notes there. I am inconsistent. Wish I wasn't. I also take notes on books on LibraryThing (and on Goodreads). I use the private comments block and even tagging books is a kind of note taking. Writing reviews can be a form of notetaking. On GR I use the private box to make notes about legacy, plot, characterization, readability and achievement. I use those notes to help me rate a book. I also like to take notes on things like quotes and tidbits about authors. Last book I made notes on line on was Radioactive Marie & Pierre Curie. Last book in my journal is Professor Martens' Departure.

128Helenliz
Avr 7, 2022, 1:25 pm

I don't make notes in a book. Not sure I could bring myself to do that.
I write reviews to remind me of what I have just read. They're not intended for anyone else, they're intended as memory joggers for me. >:-)

129SqueakyChu
Avr 7, 2022, 8:59 pm

TIOLI Stats for March, 2022:

For the month of March, 2022, we read a total of 375 books, of which 86 or 23% were shared reads. We accumulated a total of 45 TIOLI points to make a March YTD total of 146 TIOLI points, which is the best March YTD TIOLI point total since 2015. You rock, everyone! :D

The most popular book, read by 7 challengers, was Winesburg, Ohio by Sherwood Anderson.

The most popular challenge, which included 42 books completed, was the one by lindapanzo to read a book with at least a 4.00 LT average rating.

The challenge with the most TIOLI points (8 of them) was the one by @Alcotteacre to read a book with the numbers 0314 in the ISBN.

I hope everyone is enjoying our challenges. The stats are looking really good. I think people are just generally feeling more relaxed and able to read these days. At least I know I am!

Moving ahead now...

130PaulCranswick
Avr 7, 2022, 9:21 pm

>123 SqueakyChu: I jot down quotes from books that make an impression on me. I guess that is one leftover from my days as a student of English Lit. I also make succinct summaries in my diary on each book I read.

131SqueakyChu
Avr 7, 2022, 9:31 pm

>130 PaulCranswick: I hope those quotes are going into LT's common knowledge!

132SqueakyChu
Avr 7, 2022, 9:37 pm

The March 2022 TIOLI Awards!

The Perfect Book Award goes to lindapanzo for reading As Fast As Her, a book with an LT star rating of 5.0 for this challenger's own challenge to read a book with at least a 4.00 LT average rating. You can't get any higher than a 5!

The Many Happy Returns Award goes to AlcottAcre for the challenge to read a book with the numbers 0314 in the ISBN since this challenger reached her 60th birthday, quite a milestone, on March 14th. Hope it was a very special day!

The Brings Back Memories Award goes to AlcottAcre for reading The Castle of Otranto for the challenge by lyzard to read a book originally published in the 1760s, 1860s or 1960s. Not only did this book have the earliest publishing date, but just its title reminded me of my tutored read of this book with lyzard "back in the day". I remember this being such a fun read.

The Bon Voyage Award goes to dallenbaugh for reading Around the World in 80 Days , to AlcottAcre for reading The Safe House and to Chatterbox for reading The Vanished Collection for the challenge by FAMeulstee to read a book written by a citizen of one of the 27 member states of the European Union. The three books read by our winning challengers were each written by a citizen of France, a country to which our great niece is traveling with her school buddies this very week!

The Failing Arithmetic Award goes to Chatterbox for reading Madensky SQUARE for Carmenere's challenge to read a book with a five letter word in the title that you might find in Wordle. Well, had I spotted this error earlier, I would have disqualified this book, but since I already compiled and printed the stats, it's history. Anyway, count with me, and tell me why I keep seeing six letters in the five-letter word "SQUARE"! LOL!

The Love Those Antiques Award goes to countrylife for reading The Deadly Hours because it pictures a pocket watch on its cover. My younger son, among his over 700 hobbies, has just started collecting antique pocket watches. They are fascinating!

The Vocabulary Builder Award goes to dallenbaugh for the challenge to read a book that is part of a tetralogy. I needed to look up that word to see if I had a book to fit in that challenge. :)

The Hopeful Outlook Award goes to Morphidae for the challenge to read a book where all the letters of the word PEACE in the correct order in any language are in the title and/or author's name. Anyone here may promote peace at any time and in any way. It is always most appreciated!

Congrats to our numerous award winners! Feel free to add awards of your own at this time.

133lindapanzo
Avr 7, 2022, 9:43 pm

>132 SqueakyChu: Thanks for the award, Madeline. Unfortunately, I gave Kendall Coyne's book "only" 4.5 stars so she's now down to 4.75 stars. She's a gold medal Olympic hockey player but her book no longer has a perfect star rating.

134SqueakyChu
Avr 7, 2022, 9:59 pm

>133 lindapanzo: That is truly ironic! LOL!

135susanna.fraser
Avr 7, 2022, 10:21 pm

>129 SqueakyChu: I'm not used to the TIOLI stats this early in the month! You had me checking the calendar to make sure it was still the first week of April and I hadn't somehow missed my mother-in-law's birthday, Easter, etc.!

>123 SqueakyChu: I only take notes if I'm reading a book for some kind of research. I'm currently reading Folk Medicine in Southern Appalachia as a help toward building a culturally grounded magical system for the urban fantasy novel I'm trying to write, so I'm writing notes on everything that seems like it may be relevant. If I owned the book I might use a highlighter instead, but I got this on interlibrary loan through the university where I work, so I'm treating it even more gently than I would an ordinary library book.

136lyzard
Avr 7, 2022, 10:29 pm

>123 SqueakyChu:

Someone who had the library copy of Sir John Magill's Last Journey before me tried to work the mystery out by taking notes all through it, underlining supposed clues and suspicious details...in INK.

Apparently they weren't familiar with this particular series because about halfway through the narrative the guilty party / parties are revealed and it becomes about the police proving it, and the notes suddenly dried up...

137lyzard
Avr 7, 2022, 10:32 pm

>132 SqueakyChu:

For my challenge, I would like to add a Getting In The Spirit Award for Stasia for being the only person to read a book from the 1760s! Of course I meant to but where did that month go...?

How I miss our tutored reads! :(

138susanna.fraser
Avr 7, 2022, 10:33 pm

>136 lyzard: I hate it when people write in library books! I usually see it with nonfiction, where a prior borrower has penciled in notes commenting upon (and often disagreeing with) the author's views. It feels like having a random stranger butt into a conversation.

139SqueakyChu
Avr 7, 2022, 10:49 pm

>135 susanna.fraser: LOL! It’s a crazy month with Passover right in the middle so I’m thrilled to be able to share last month’s stats with everyone early.

I think it’s so cool that you’re now in the process of writing a book. I hadn’t known that you’re already an author of many books. I’ll have to look for them.

>136 lyzard: I think it takes a lot of nerve to write in a library book, let alone in ink! Funny about the notes disappearing!

>137 lyzard: At the end of this month, send me some ideas for tutored reads you’d like to do. Our library is open once again, and I’m only babysitting 1-3 times per week. Maybe we can resume them soon. I’m ready.

>138 susanna.fraser:. I get tons of book donations for my Little Free Library. My favorite donor is a guy I call The Bicycle Man because he rides a bike to my Little Free Library (although he hasn’t been around lately). He sometimes does margin notes in pencil in books he donates, but they are gorgeous! The notes are in the tiniest and neatest printing on the outer margin of the pages and perpendicular to the lines printed on the page. I think his particular notes *add* value to books!

140Citizenjoyce
Avr 7, 2022, 11:40 pm

I'm getting very lazy in my old age. I don't take notes but occasionally I review a book.

141dallenbaugh
Avr 8, 2022, 7:19 am

>132 SqueakyChu: Thanks for the awards, Madeline. It is embarrassing that I couldn't even finish the book for my own tetralogy challenge.

I watched the new series "Around the World in 80 Days' on PBS and wondered how the book would differ. In this case, I much preferred watching it to reading the book.

As for note taking, I rarely make notes in books and only if I own them and they are non-fiction

142Chatterbox
Avr 8, 2022, 9:00 am

>132 SqueakyChu: Well, bugger. And to think that I have been doing so much better at Wordle itself in the last month. *sheepish*

I don't take notes on books. I have so much clutter and odd bits of writing around that this would make me crazy/crazier. I DO highlight passages on Kindle books, though -- much more manageable. I don't comment on them, as if I revisit a book, I don't want my reaction to be shaped by what I thought the last time. If I have a reaction to a book, it's likely to emerge in a random comment here or on FB.

143alcottacre
Avr 8, 2022, 10:07 am

>129 SqueakyChu: I love that the stats are looking good!

>132 SqueakyChu: Congratulations to all the winners! Thanks for the birthday award, Madeline. I had a wonderful day.

>137 lyzard: Thanks, Liz. I will take it!

144AnneDC
Avr 8, 2022, 12:05 pm

Congratulations to awardees! And the stats are very exciting.

I don't take notes on books as much as I'd like to--I have a reading notebook just for jotting down notes on what I'm reading but I mostly use it to make lists of new books to read or to track my TIOLI challenges. I like to note down phrases that particularly strike me (fiction) and new ideas (non-fiction), and keeping brief notes helps me remember books better.

I would never write in a library book, but if I own a book I will sometimes make notes (in pencil). This is something I used to do as a student, and then stopped doing, and now figure, since they're my books, I can do what I want. I recently read a book that my daughter had read in high school and it was full of her underlinings and margin notes. It actually enhanced my reading experience as I was able to see how she reacted to things.

145SqueakyChu
Modifié : Avr 8, 2022, 2:09 pm

>144 AnneDC: it was full of her underlinings and margin notes. It actually enhanced my reading experience as I was able to see how she reacted to things.

Sometimes I like margin notes, but sometimes I don't. It makes a difference who writes the notes and exactly what is written. Sometimes I even avoid annotated books! :D

146lahochstetler
Avr 8, 2022, 3:47 pm

I have a book journal ( just a cute notebook, really) where I record short summaries and my thoughts about books, so that I can write reviews later, but I have been pretty lazy about it lately.

147Carmenere
Avr 8, 2022, 4:12 pm

I take notes, in a notebook, for my in person book clubs. My notes come in handy when I want to remember characters or quotes or interesting facts about the novel I want to bring up when we meet. I’m at a certain age that when I close a book, I almost immediately forget the important points I didn’t want to forget :0/

148Helenoel
Avr 8, 2022, 4:23 pm

I rarely take any notes on pleasure reading. I do if I am reading for a group discussion or sometimes for professional material. I do forget a lot, but LT keeps my lsts so if I am in the bookstore or library I can fid if I have read some new temptation before or not. Except for things I read before LT.

149Helenoel
Avr 8, 2022, 4:27 pm

I just added Orion on the Dunes to Challenge #10. Annoyingly, the book is mistitled (of not on) in the Works entry and ascribed to the wrong author (no middle initial - should be G.) My book is correctly entered, but how to I sort it out for LT>. There are all of 6 copies on LT, so not likely to rise to Tim's attention.

150susanna.fraser
Avr 9, 2022, 1:08 am

>139 SqueakyChu: I don't talk much about being an author lately, since it's been 7 years now since my last release! Burnout, writer's block, stress over the state of the world, pandemic, etc. have me wondering if I'm ever going to finish a manuscript again, frankly. I'm more enthusiastic about the urban fantasy manuscript than I have over anything I've tried to write in many a year, so hopefully it'll break the curse.

>144 AnneDC: I have two family Bibles, one that was my dad's and one that was my paternal grandfather's, and I feel very differently about their underlining and margin notes than I do those of strangers in library books!

151SqueakyChu
Modifié : Avr 9, 2022, 11:08 am

>150 susanna.fraser: I think the pandemic winding down has had the same effect on many people. I think covid is still easy to contract despite the dropping of mask mandates, but people are much happier now that they are not forced into so much isolation. I’m glad your enthusiasm for writing is slowly returning. I find that happening for my reading as well.

152quondame
Modifié : Avr 10, 2022, 3:20 pm

>44 DeltaQueen50: The Kingdoms starts in what would in our timeline be London but is colonial France in that reality. It does spend some time in a timeline where there is an England if not a UK, but would the geographical setting be enough to qualify it for this challenge?

Update: I've used it for #13 since large portions of it take place on shipboard and the title refers to the crew of a ship.

153alcottacre
Avr 9, 2022, 7:48 pm

>123 SqueakyChu: Since I am currently reading 84, Charing Cross Road and the quote is to the point, I thought I would share:

"you leave me sitting here writing long margin notes in library books that don't belong to me, some day they'll find out i did it and take my library card away."

154Helenliz
Avr 10, 2022, 3:24 am

I picked up The Bloody Chamber and Other Stories at a second had book sale recently. I'd not read any Angela Carter and it was published in 1979, helping to fill in my 50 years challenge.

I mention it now because I find that the first story has been marked up by somebody using a luminous pink highlighter pen. >:-o
I assume that must have been for an essay, looking at what they've marked up.

155wandering_star
Avr 10, 2022, 7:59 am

>139 SqueakyChu: I would love a tutored read of Patrick White if anyone is up for leading that!

156lyzard
Avr 10, 2022, 8:38 am

>139 SqueakyChu:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well! - I shall have to have a think about that... :D

157SqueakyChu
Avr 10, 2022, 11:25 am

>156 lyzard: :D Take advantage of this while you can!

158Helenliz
Avr 21, 2022, 2:06 pm

Hello hive mind. Struggling to fit Shakespeare's The Winter's Tale anywhere. Wrong number of letters, features the sea but only a bit, listened to it so no page numbers, not an animal/vegetable or mineral, published 1611 (ish), no nouns, no names, no numbers. I think I'm going to need a crowbar to get it to fit anywhere!
Any ideas most appreciated.

159alcottacre
Avr 21, 2022, 2:42 pm

>158 Helenliz: Any chance it could relate to something you read in the first quarter? A book with a shared character name, another play, something written in the same year, etc. That is the only challenge I could see that you could crowbar it into. Other hive minds may be more helpful.

160Morphidae
Avr 21, 2022, 6:23 pm

>158 Helenliz: If someone takes Vegetable, a new set will become available. At that point you'll have several options:

Place: Winter - check Wikipedia for real/fictional places called Winter or use the setting.

Mineral: for mineral, text is an option...

"You're a made old man: if the sins of your youth
are forgiven you, you're well to live. Gold! all gold!

You'd need to provide a page number for whatever mineral you chose.

Lastly, which cover? It might qualify under "Thing" as well.

Lots of choices!

(Well... if someone picks a "vegetable," i.e. plant-related word in title/author or cover first.)

161Helenliz
Avr 22, 2022, 3:04 am

>159 alcottacre: I had thought just by the same author was too tenuous a link, and when it comes to Shakespeare, two plays by him is the same as two novels by a novelist. But there must be a common theme I can find. I'm on a listen to all of his plays kick, so I'm sure I can find something from the ones read so far. Thanks!

162Morphidae
Avr 22, 2022, 10:47 am

>161 Helenliz: Mineral and Place have opened up in my challenge #17!

163Helenliz
Avr 23, 2022, 3:55 am

>162 Morphidae: I'm sorted elsewhere, thanks.

164lyzard
Avr 24, 2022, 8:46 pm

Hey, Madeline---

I've just discovered I forgot to list a book on the wiki last October...

Of course I have to go back and adjust my figures; don't know if you'll feel equally compelled to update the stats?? :D

(Just in case: one more book in #4: Read a book with a title associated with death.)

165SqueakyChu
Modifié : Avr 24, 2022, 9:01 pm

>164 lyzard: You are kidding?! LOL!!

Nope. No compulsion at all. What’s done is done. Meaning it’s done gone! :D

I don’t think the stats are ever 100% accurate. I use them mostly to show us trends.

166lyzard
Avr 25, 2022, 5:49 pm

>165 SqueakyChu:

You mean not everyone obsesses over irrelevant details from six months ago?

Weird...

167SqueakyChu
Avr 25, 2022, 8:04 pm

>166 lyzard: Well...I'm not sure about others. I only know about myself! LOL!

168alcottacre
Avr 25, 2022, 10:02 pm

>167 SqueakyChu: How can they be irrelevant details when they are relevant to you, Liz?

169SqueakyChu
Modifié : Avr 25, 2022, 11:29 pm

>168 alcottacre: I think Liz means that they are relevant to her while at the same time possibly being irrelevant to others.

Speaking about changes after the fact in stats...I simply cannot go back and re do them all the time. It would serve no purpose. I do try to wait a few days after the each month before I do my tallies. If there are individuals with lag time, I have responded to private messages to delay compiling the stats. That's fine. However, once they're done, that's it! I need to move on!

170lyzard
Avr 26, 2022, 1:15 am

>168 alcottacre:, >169 SqueakyChu:

I would have hard time making *any* case for relevance: I found my missing TIOLI book while catching up reviews from last October! :D

171alcottacre
Avr 26, 2022, 1:18 am

>170 lyzard: You missed a book? Here? That is terrible. Fifty lashes with a wet noodle for you!

172lyzard
Avr 26, 2022, 7:23 pm

>171 alcottacre:

Got lost in the thread-change shuffle. :D

173alcottacre
Avr 26, 2022, 8:15 pm

>172 lyzard: Excuses, excuses :)

174bell7
Avr 26, 2022, 9:10 pm

If it makes you feel any better, Liz, I was going through the graphic novels I'd read by a particular author a few months ago and realized I'd forgotten to add one to my LT library when I read it back in 2019!

175lyzard
Avr 27, 2022, 5:54 pm

>174 bell7:

My fixation on cover images usually forestalls that, at least! :)

176quondame
Avr 30, 2022, 12:57 am

>1 SqueakyChu: For Arthur's April Fool the Ap is in the middle.....

177SqueakyChu
Modifié : Avr 30, 2022, 10:14 am

178SqueakyChu
Mai 1, 2022, 1:33 pm

Oops! I missed Housekeeping Day yesterday. However, by now I hope that all of you have removed books from the April wiki that you did not finish by midnight last night. Thanks!

179elkiedee
Mai 21, 2022, 3:04 pm

I'm seeing rather belatedly if I can add my April reads to the Wiki - I was able to finish some books on Kindle and read a few library ebooks, because of being able to change my settings, but I couldn't see enough to do anything much on my laptop from late March until 18 May.

I read a book via Netgalley which I can't fit anywhere - is anyone able to check a hardback/paperback/page numbered ebook copy of All's Well by Mona Awad for actual page numbers?

180Citizenjoyce
Mai 21, 2022, 4:17 pm

>179 elkiedee: Amazon says 368 pages

181elkiedee
Modifié : Mai 21, 2022, 4:25 pm

>180 Citizenjoyce: - that would work - Amazon UK says 361, which doesn't

182SqueakyChu
Modifié : Mai 21, 2022, 5:25 pm

>179 elkiedee: I already did the stats from the April wiki. You may certainly go back to add them now for your own information, but I am not going back to change the stats.

183elkiedee
Mai 21, 2022, 10:21 pm

>182 SqueakyChu: Of course not, I never expected you to do so! My additions don't make a lot of difference anyway - there is one extra shared read

I simply wasn't able to use Librarything very much for a few weeks due to temporary sight loss caused by cataracts - I don't know how make adjustments on this laptop screen but managed to finish a few books on Kindle and read most easily on a phone library ebook app on which I could work out how to change settings - I now have one eye in great working order and one eye with very limited vision.

184SqueakyChu
Mai 21, 2022, 11:25 pm

>182 SqueakyChu: I totally understand about the cataracts. I’m still waiting for my glasses post bilateral cataract surgeries and one laser eye surgery. I haven’t had distance vision for over two years, but I can see to type and read so at least I can read your message. One day in the future I hope to see birds instead of flying blurs! :D

185Citizenjoyce
Mai 22, 2022, 12:06 am

>183 elkiedee: Congratulations on your one good eye. Here's hoping for another one.