Random, unexplained author name: R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896.
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1aspirit
The name "R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896." is attributed to two works (below). I can't figure out why it is from looking at the work editions, work CK, author CK, or author page history. I've attempted to clear it with author/title refreshes and an author recalculation.
The Four Profound Weaves
https://www.librarything.com/work/24021737/
How to Remember to Forget to Remember the Old War
https://www.librarything.com/work/23603596/
Any guesses about what's happening here?
The Four Profound Weaves
https://www.librarything.com/work/24021737/
How to Remember to Forget to Remember the Old War
https://www.librarything.com/work/23603596/
Any guesses about what's happening here?
2aspirit
Oh! I found the problem by going to "examine and separate out names".
https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrose/names
However, I don't know how to correct it. All nine works (including the seven that didn't come up in a site search) belong to R. B. Lemberg.
Rudolf Lemberg, born 1896, is an entirely different author.
https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrose/names
However, I don't know how to correct it. All nine works (including the seven that didn't come up in a site search) belong to R. B. Lemberg.
Rudolf Lemberg, born 1896, is an entirely different author.
3Opteryx
(note: I was still finishing writing this while post #2 appeared)
Not sure what's going on there, but I noticed that the modern R. B. Lemberg previously known as Rose Lemberg is definitely not the same person as the R. (Rudolf) Lemberg born in 1896, and the 1896 guy already has a separate author page at https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrudolf - so perhaps the "R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896." name could be separated from the https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrose author page, and instead combined into lembergrudolf.
I had a problem like this once about a month ago with some obscure items that kept clinging to a mangled version of the author name that nobody was still using, and the only way I could get it fixed (even after waiting a few days for any system caching to refresh) was to split out the bad author name, recalculate authors on the author page and all the affected works, and then (in that case since it didn't have any other page it belonged on, unlike your case) re-combined the bad name back into the same author page.
Not sure what's going on there, but I noticed that the modern R. B. Lemberg previously known as Rose Lemberg is definitely not the same person as the R. (Rudolf) Lemberg born in 1896, and the 1896 guy already has a separate author page at https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrudolf - so perhaps the "R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896." name could be separated from the https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrose author page, and instead combined into lembergrudolf.
I had a problem like this once about a month ago with some obscure items that kept clinging to a mangled version of the author name that nobody was still using, and the only way I could get it fixed (even after waiting a few days for any system caching to refresh) was to split out the bad author name, recalculate authors on the author page and all the affected works, and then (in that case since it didn't have any other page it belonged on, unlike your case) re-combined the bad name back into the same author page.
4gilroy
I'm guessing recalculate author name didn't fix it? (Never mind, tried it myself)
Looking at it, from what I can tell, there's a cache issue, maybe? From a previous separation?
But, unfortunately, whatever the primary author work with the most copies is tends to win the author name. In this case, for some unknown reason, The Four Profound Weaves (34 copies) is showing as R Rudolf Lemberg so is winning over R B Lemberg as an editor with only 27 copies.
If it doesn't correct by Tuesday, I'd say it's a bug.
Looking at it, from what I can tell, there's a cache issue, maybe? From a previous separation?
But, unfortunately, whatever the primary author work with the most copies is tends to win the author name. In this case, for some unknown reason, The Four Profound Weaves (34 copies) is showing as R Rudolf Lemberg so is winning over R B Lemberg as an editor with only 27 copies.
If it doesn't correct by Tuesday, I'd say it's a bug.
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6aspirit
>3 Opteryx: thank you! The solution from your earlier situation was good for this one.
I've successfully separated out the author "R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896." and recalculated the new author page. The system changed the name to "R. B. Lemberg"-- what's on the work editions. When I returned to the original R. B. Lemberg page (https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrose, the touchstone) and recalcuated that author name, the nine works that had been separated out with "R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896." were automatically readded to the page without dragging the wrong name back.
So that's all good.
I've successfully separated out the author "R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896." and recalculated the new author page. The system changed the name to "R. B. Lemberg"-- what's on the work editions. When I returned to the original R. B. Lemberg page (https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrose, the touchstone) and recalcuated that author name, the nine works that had been separated out with "R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896." were automatically readded to the page without dragging the wrong name back.
So that's all good.
7Opteryx
>6 aspirit: Great! :)
8aspirit
"R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896." no longer appears in search results, so I can't combine it with Rudolph Lemberg.
That's another sign there was a bug (>4 gilroy: a cache issue looks like a good guess). I think it's not interfering with any pages anymore.
That's another sign there was a bug (>4 gilroy: a cache issue looks like a good guess). I think it's not interfering with any pages anymore.
9karenb
Er, I think you may find that these two authors are actually the same person, writing under different names. The four profound weaves is a novella that came out this year, and it is mentioned on RB (formerly Rose) Lemberg's home page, here.
(Sorry that I didn't check Talk more thoroughly, earlier in the day.)
ETA: Of course, there are two different Rudolf Lembergs, one writing about Quaker stuff and one ("b. 1896") writing speculative fiction.
(Sorry that I didn't check Talk more thoroughly, earlier in the day.)
ETA: Of course, there are two different Rudolf Lembergs, one writing about Quaker stuff and one ("b. 1896") writing speculative fiction.
10Opteryx
>9 karenb: "Er, I think you may find that these two authors are actually the same person"
No, they are undoubtedly completely different people who lived at completely different times. The works in >1 aspirit: were all written in modern times by the still-living R.B. (formerly Rose) Lemberg, who has an active blog. The problem was that those R.B./Rose works were erroneously displaying the Rudolf Lemberg name even though it had never been used by any members on any of the editions of those works, because of the glitch which I helped aspirit clear up.
As the version of Rudolf's name that had been erroneously appearing on those two works had stated, he was born in the 1800s and probably never used a computer before he passed away many years ago. I didn't know about this other 'Quaker stuff' Rudolf, but the books this thread was about were definitely not Quaker-related.
No, they are undoubtedly completely different people who lived at completely different times. The works in >1 aspirit: were all written in modern times by the still-living R.B. (formerly Rose) Lemberg, who has an active blog. The problem was that those R.B./Rose works were erroneously displaying the Rudolf Lemberg name even though it had never been used by any members on any of the editions of those works, because of the glitch which I helped aspirit clear up.
As the version of Rudolf's name that had been erroneously appearing on those two works had stated, he was born in the 1800s and probably never used a computer before he passed away many years ago. I didn't know about this other 'Quaker stuff' Rudolf, but the books this thread was about were definitely not Quaker-related.
11karenb
>10 Opteryx:
The name mentioned in >1 aspirit:, "R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896" has been used by R. B. Lemberg.
(Next, see the details that you outlined in >3 Opteryx:)
I have added lots of CK for both R. B. and Rudi, so it should be easier to differentiate between them.
I have combined both R. B. Lembergs into one author page, which now seems to be comprehensive and accurate (https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrose).
(It is definitely confusing.)
The name mentioned in >1 aspirit:, "R. (Rudolf) Lemberg, b. 1896" has been used by R. B. Lemberg.
(Next, see the details that you outlined in >3 Opteryx:)
I have added lots of CK for both R. B. and Rudi, so it should be easier to differentiate between them.
I have combined both R. B. Lembergs into one author page, which now seems to be comprehensive and accurate (https://www.librarything.com/author/lembergrose).
(It is definitely confusing.)
