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1PaulaDail
Thoughts on this idea? The court is still dominated by white males (2/3) and needs more diversity. Who might be able to step in...and more to the point, who might be able to be confirmed before the current president leaves office??
2lilithcat
Ridiculous. If you want another woman on the Court, find one who is actually qualified for the judiciary, not someone who just fits the "woman and African-American" parameters. (And if you think she could ever be confirmed, you're dreaming.)
She was very briefly (three years) in Sidley Austin's marketing and intellectual practice. It doesn't appear that she ever actually tried a case. Then she was a shill for the second Mayor Daley and then the University of Chicago Hospitals. She has no judicial experience.
Suggestions like this are one of the reasons some people don't take women seriously.
She was very briefly (three years) in Sidley Austin's marketing and intellectual practice. It doesn't appear that she ever actually tried a case. Then she was a shill for the second Mayor Daley and then the University of Chicago Hospitals. She has no judicial experience.
Suggestions like this are one of the reasons some people don't take women seriously.
3LolaWalser
Suggestions like this are one of the reasons some people don't take women seriously.
Could be, but there's no reason to take those people seriously either.
Could be, but there's no reason to take those people seriously either.
4lilithcat
That's not the issue. The issue is thinking that being a woman is a BFOQ.
This sort of things really makes me angry. Women have tried so damn hard to be recognized for their abilities and qualifications, to be taken seriously. I fought and struggled to achieve in a field all but closed to women at the time I entered. I was one of six women in my law school class, and had to put up with a lot of crap from the professors. When I was in practice, I had to put up with a lot of crap from judges and other lawyers.
So when another woman says, "give this serious, important job to her for no other reason than that she's a woman", I blow a gasket. It negates everything the women's movement fought for. Might as well have voted for Sarah Palin.
This sort of things really makes me angry. Women have tried so damn hard to be recognized for their abilities and qualifications, to be taken seriously. I fought and struggled to achieve in a field all but closed to women at the time I entered. I was one of six women in my law school class, and had to put up with a lot of crap from the professors. When I was in practice, I had to put up with a lot of crap from judges and other lawyers.
So when another woman says, "give this serious, important job to her for no other reason than that she's a woman", I blow a gasket. It negates everything the women's movement fought for. Might as well have voted for Sarah Palin.
5LolaWalser
>4 lilithcat:
I get your irritation, but you are also generalizing, like any two-bit misogynist, from something one woman said to "THIS--this is why we don't take women seriously!"
Need I point out nobody seems to do this with men? Not only can they be Trumps and Dubyas and Hitlers and freaking kiddie-sodomizing cannibals all day long, they can also make less than brilliant posts and suggestions without getting their entire gender shamed.
I get your irritation, but you are also generalizing, like any two-bit misogynist, from something one woman said to "THIS--this is why we don't take women seriously!"
Need I point out nobody seems to do this with men? Not only can they be Trumps and Dubyas and Hitlers and freaking kiddie-sodomizing cannibals all day long, they can also make less than brilliant posts and suggestions without getting their entire gender shamed.
6lilithcat
Nobody here was shaming an entire gender. I object only to those women who want my vote or other support just because we have the same genitalia. It's just as stupid as those men who say "don't vote for a woman". Gender should never be the criteria for anything much other than a wet nurse or sperm donor.
7RidgewayGirl
I thought this was a good article listing possible candidates. Obama has shown that he values intellectual rigor over political views when choosing his appointees.
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/13/10987836/obama-supreme-court-shortlist
edited to add: I don't give a toss for the opinions of men looking for reasons to dismiss women. It's not like immaculate behavior will win them over, and I don't think their opinion is worth winning.
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/13/10987836/obama-supreme-court-shortlist
edited to add: I don't give a toss for the opinions of men looking for reasons to dismiss women. It's not like immaculate behavior will win them over, and I don't think their opinion is worth winning.
8LolaWalser
Is there a godless commie in the lot? That's the one I want. :)
9PaulaDail
Actually, judicial experience isn't a necessary qualification for the SC, although most recent appointees have had that. One doesn't even have to be a lawyer to sit on the SC... It's more a matter of intellect and ability to analytically dissect issues that come before the court and interpret the Constitution accordingly. I believe she meets these qualifications, plus she does have a law degree.
I am not upset by the initial list of possible candidates that has been proposed. I also believe it's not a bad idea to think outside the box occasionally. Otherwise, institutions like the SC, where members are appointed for life, are in danger of folding in on themselves.
I am not upset by the initial list of possible candidates that has been proposed. I also believe it's not a bad idea to think outside the box occasionally. Otherwise, institutions like the SC, where members are appointed for life, are in danger of folding in on themselves.
10lilithcat
Constitutionally, one does not have to be a lawyer to be on the Supreme Court. Practically speaking, one does.
You still haven't given one single reason that she should be appointed to the court, other than that she's an African-American woman who used to have a law license*. There are thousands of African-American women with law licenses in this country. What makes FLOTUS a better choice for the court than any of them? Or any other person with a law license? (Me, for instance?)
*She's on inactive status and is not authorized to practice.
You still haven't given one single reason that she should be appointed to the court, other than that she's an African-American woman who used to have a law license*. There are thousands of African-American women with law licenses in this country. What makes FLOTUS a better choice for the court than any of them? Or any other person with a law license? (Me, for instance?)
*She's on inactive status and is not authorized to practice.
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