Radical Christian Terrorist attacks Planned Parenthood Facility - murders three people, including a policeman.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/colorado-planned-parenthood-shooting_5658f9b...

I think it is time to recognize the equal threat to the U.S. that christian terrorists pose. Obama sends the Navy Seals to take out muslim terrorists and drops cruise missiles on their filthy heads several times a day. I think it is time a missile is reserved for the "Operation Rescue" (so-called) headquarters and the hunting down and eliminating with extreme prejudice all known members or supporters of this terrorist organization.

Time to end the white privilege. Your very white and christian next door neighbor could be a terrorist. I am emailing Obama to lobby for an needed amendment to the ongoing U.S. anti-terrorist effort. All patriotic citizens are invited to join me.

The time for splitting hairs is past. Now is the time to start doing what is needed.

I did not realize that ISIS had conducted this many executions.

They really should improve their advising campaign.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/is-executes-3500-in-syria-since-declaring-ca...

I don't know the religious affiliation of the terrorist.

I did read that the police officer who was killed was an elder at his church.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/colorado-governor-urges-toned-down-abortion-deb...

And an aside, I agree with the governor of Colorado, in general. Rhetoric on this as well as on other subjects should be toned down, significantly.

Sometimes the person disagreeing with me is not actually evil. Or even stupid.

Perhaps we can learn that on Internet exchanges in general, and on LT discussions in particular.

"Those who knew Dear said he seemed to have few religious or political leanings."

"Russell and others said the only companion they saw with Dear was a mangy dog that looked to be in such bad shape they called animal control because they worried he was beating it."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-springs-shooting-robert-lewis-dear-neighbor...

He might not have been a right winged Christian nut.

He might have been just a normal run of the mill nut.

And this might not be the best thread to post this.

I was shocked to read the Mark Richt was fired as the Georgia football coach this morning. Everyone was focused so much on LSU.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/georgia-fires-football-coach-mark-richt/a...

A 9-3 record this year, plus a bowl game still to play.

>1 JGL53:
I get your point, etc., etc. I also understand that evacuation affords a certain pleasure.

And then?

I'll take you seriously.

Given the failures of earlier American missile policies, I'm skeptical about escalating.

Too much of that shit already.

> 4

One of the first things out the nut's mouth when he was taken into custody was the utterance "No more baby parts."

If he was a jewish, muslim, hindu, buddhist, atheist or some other brand of anti-abortion nut, then I guess that information will soon come out. What are the effing odds?

The only kind of violent anti-abortion nuts operating now in the U.S. that I know of are christian anti-abortion nuts.

But nice try at a dodge, Richard. Keep your fingers crossed, buddy.

> 6

Then what would you suggest, krolik? "Operation Rescue" and similar abortion nut organizations are basically being ignored now, even though they are an ongoing threat to law and order, as defined under the Constitution.

I think at a minimum an investigation by the FBI and other law enforcement would produce enough evidence to jail them all under the RICO act. They are, in practical if not legal terms, terrorists and anarchists, i.e., they have been conspiring as a group and engaging in violent acts against U.S. citizens on U.S. territory. At a minimum they should be criminally charged based on the evidence and put in jail with no bail.

Incidentally, the republican party, specifically the elected members in Congress and those running for the republican Presidential nomination, are for the most part guilty of incitement to - not riot but murder - by repeating their filthy lies over and over and over again - i.e., "Planned Parenthood is selling baby body parts for profit". I don't see this as free speech, I see it as incitement to murder. The cop that was murdered might as well have been shot by a republican scumbag running for the Presidential nomination.

Perhaps Obama could use his Constitutional emergency powers to round up all these republican assholes and put them in federal prisons - maybe GITO would be the proper place for them.

>8 JGL53:
Then what would you suggest, krolik? ... I think at a minimum an investigation by the FBI

Investigation by the FBI, sure. I'll claim some common ground here, JGL, for your minimum. At least we have that, no?

Some of the other measures you mention--tantamount to policing speech, even if it's obnoxious and pernicious speech by assholes--aren't for me. Sorry.

> 10

Reread my post, krolik - carefully. I am not talking about merely obnoxious and pernicious speech by assholes. I did not say merely obnoxious and pernicious. I said the republicans are inciting to murder - in legal terms, inciting to riot (the major objection to riot being that innocent persons may be killed, i.e., murdered).

Speech is not absolutely free. The old and rather cliché example is obnoxiously and perniciously crying fire in a crowded theatre, knowing all the time there is no fire and not really caring about the consequences of your obnoxious and pernicious verbal action. If deaths are the result in the rush from the building then you will be criminally charged and freedom of speech arguments by your lawyer will not get you off.

Do you think for a second that scumbags running for the republican nomination believe for one second that Planned Parenthood are "selling baby body parts for profit"? No. Are they at least minimally aware that spewing highly emotionally-charge verbal garbage will "incite" people to be angry - very angry - based on this lie? No. Do you think they are surprised that a tiny few nuts in the population will be incited to violent reaction? no. After all, babies are being slaughtered for fun and profit by Planned Parenthood - they say so, over and over again, day in and day out. If they did not know what they were doing then they must be schizophrenic and/or as criminal-minded as the scumbag who did the actually murdering.

The other cliché example of speech not being absolutely free is that of threats of violence issued against the President. Are you willing to go on record disagreeing with that? For your sake, let's assume not.

Then where are we? Right back to the salient points made in post #8.

Please have a nice night and a pleasant tomorrow.

While idly flicking through the handful of channels which I can get free on my cable TV, I watched a programme on the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. It recast the familiar story in modern terms, namely that this was a terrorist plot, a small group of radical militant Catholic terrorists trying to blow up the head of state and the whole parliament. If it had succeeded, they noted, it would perhaps have had more impact than any modern-day terrorists - no terrorist has yet succeeded in killing the head of state and the entire government of any nation in one fell swoop, as far as I know. It would have been regime change par excellence. Britain would quite possibly have become a Catholic country, and as she was such a significant imperial power in the following centuries, the changes would arguably have had global impact. But it didn't succeed, ostensibly due to an intelligence-led operation. Interesting thought, anyway.

"Remember, remember,
The Fifth of November,
Gunpowder treason and plot..."

> 4

Sorry, Dick:

"(Robert L.) Dear was born in Charleston, South Carolina, grew up in Louisville, Kentucky, and was raised a Baptist. He remained religious but did not regularly attend church ........ Dear..... was generally conservative, and was against abortion...."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/aliciamelvillesmith/heres-what-we-know-about-planned-par...

and

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/former-wife-says-planned-parenthood-shooter-is-c...

The christian terrorist Robert L. Dear is not left wing nor transgendered. He was not just randomly shooting in a randomly chosen public place without any political or religious motivation.

Au contraire -Robert L. Dear is a rightwing christian terrorist anti-abortion nut case - and probably schizophrenic with religious ideations - who was encouraged and set off by the fake "selling baby parts" video that was nevertheless endorsed, promoted and talked about over and over again by most of the higher polling candidates for the republican nomination for President - especially the female one, I forget her fucking name.

The republicans have blood on their hands - the violent deaths of a policeman and two other innocent persons.

Ted Cruz particularly is a sub-human piece of lying filth. He might as well have pulled the trigger himself.

Shooting at Colorado clinic antithesis of pro-life movement, says priest (National Catholic Reporter)

> 13

Is not the teachings of the catholic church the antithesis of child rape? Is that not the theory? I would have thought so.

But not so much, huh jtf?

Can you explain it all away to tens of thousands of victims and their families?

Regarding abortion, an aborted speck of goo can't ultimately develop into a human being who, as a defenseless child, can then be raped by a catholic priest. So, abortion may not be that bad of deal for some souls, considering. Best to just be recycled, I'd think.

But I am just a humble atheist. So - check with god on all that for us, jtf, just to be sure. Let us know what he says. It should be fascinating.