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2hnau
Leaving aside your belief or disbelief in creation:
The Bible does not mention Adam's navel (nor any other pornographic details about his body), so the artist can only guess whether there was a navel or not. Obviously, people at different times came to different conclusions:
Of course, from a functional view, Adam did not need a navel. But—inventing some reasons—as an engineer, God already had a blueprint of adult men in general, so why not create the first man according to that specification, too? Or, the navel might be symbolic for Adam being called a son of God. (After all, there is a lot of symbolism in these pictures.) Or ...
So it is more a question of the artist's traditions and cultural assumptions. It might be fun to find some real reasons for both views, and to make up some more.
The Bible does not mention Adam's navel (nor any other pornographic details about his body), so the artist can only guess whether there was a navel or not. Obviously, people at different times came to different conclusions:
Of course, from a functional view, Adam did not need a navel. But—inventing some reasons—as an engineer, God already had a blueprint of adult men in general, so why not create the first man according to that specification, too? Or, the navel might be symbolic for Adam being called a son of God. (After all, there is a lot of symbolism in these pictures.) Or ...
So it is more a question of the artist's traditions and cultural assumptions. It might be fun to find some real reasons for both views, and to make up some more.
5paradoxosalpha
I dunno, maybe there was an umbilicus from Adam's rib to Eve's tummy?
Now Lilith, she had no navel!
Now Lilith, she had no navel!
6Taphophile13
I always liked Lilith.
7darrow
>2 hnau: hnau's answer is a good one but I would not leave aside belief or disbelief in creation. I would tell them that Adam and Eve were fictional characters. If they want to look for logical conundrums in the story there are many more things to question besides navel/no navel.
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11hnau
>7 darrow: I just wanted to leave it aside for the sake of this discussion. Of course we want our children to undertand our worldview.
Going into further detail, the interpretation of the biblical text has also changed with time. E.g. when we read the story of creation in the light of ancient Near Eastern culture, it is more akin to a temple dedication ceremony, not a scientific account of creation.
(Sources: John H. Walton (a professor of Old Testament), The Lost World of Genesis One: Ancient Cosmology and the Origins Debate and several videos on YouTube).
Going into further detail, the interpretation of the biblical text has also changed with time. E.g. when we read the story of creation in the light of ancient Near Eastern culture, it is more akin to a temple dedication ceremony, not a scientific account of creation.
(Sources: John H. Walton (a professor of Old Testament), The Lost World of Genesis One: Ancient Cosmology and the Origins Debate and several videos on YouTube).
14EricJT
Couldn't you have explained that, as Adam and Eve were made in the image of God Genesis, i, 27, Adam (like Eve) had a navel because God had one?
Hmm, maybe not as that means God had a penis etc. .....
Hmm, maybe not as that means God had a penis etc. .....
15Taphophile13
But, but, . . . if God has a belly button, then that must mean he has a . . . mother! And who's his father?
16TotalBookcase
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18Taphophile13
>16 TotalBookcase: "Mrs. God" and her husband
How do you know they were married? Did Maury say "you are the father"? Did he support young God? Where did God go to school? So many questions, so few answers.
How do you know they were married? Did Maury say "you are the father"? Did he support young God? Where did God go to school? So many questions, so few answers.
20Marissa_Doyle
>19 spartan: And if they weren't married, then who was the child welfare case worker who made sure child support was paid to keep little God in Cheerios and sandals?
22Marissa_Doyle
>21 spartan: Well, yes...but what a creation myth we could come up with here...Coronation Street meets Genesis!
24Molly-the-Cat
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27Marissa_Doyle
>26 spartan: Except they went rapidly downhill after Peter Gabriel left. Hmm. Gabriel.
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31keigu
I'd say the clay that god us from must have been very elastic, so much so he made man in two dimensions like cookie cut-outs then poked a hole where the navel is and blew up man through it and it stretched out as man gained weight and once god's wet and salty breath filled him enough he tied the navel like we might a balloon. And let me add, I wish he blew more helium into us so we would be light enough to float. Don't ask me how to reconcile that with Eve. Haven't figured out that yet.
32Molly-the-Cat
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