Appeal process?

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Have been incorrectly flagged - they blatently are reviews, short, but commenting on the book. Has anyone thought of a sensible way of appealling? As users we don't know who flagged it, or when. They aren't thumb worthy reviews so shouldn't recieve one just to counterbalance a poor flagging.

Of course this was the original talk thread requesting a revokation of some flags.

Maybe we shoudl all just write longer reviews then they wouldn't get flagged.

If we didn't write reviews at all, they wouldn't get flagged then either.

Or maybe if there was some sort of public shaming of users abusing the flags...

Would it be possible to institute an appeals process that relied on other users to reverse an appealed flag? My review gets flagged, I say "no fair," and my review gets put in some sort of anti-quarantine pool, and if three/four/five users decide to de-flag it, the flag is removed?

I think this would also be useful for people whose reviews are correctly flagged who then edit their review. From what I understand the flag doesn't disappear, and you may have to delete and re-add the book. I would pretty much refuse to do this as getting the entry date out of whack like that would mess up my catalogue view, and it's a pain. Anyway if we had an appeals process similar to what I describe, someone who edits his review can have it placed in the same anti-quarantine pool so the edited version can be de-flagged as appropriate.

2: That sounds good.

Or, you could make whoever flags them always public, not just for abusers. Might make more people want to be sure they are right before they do it. The same as for combiners and picturepeople, and neverers etc.

Of course, would make for a few nasty comments, too, I suppose. :) Same applies for some of the above though.

Then in the case of someone disliking you saying that Eco isn't really a writing deity in your opinion because they happen to have 3 copies of all Eco books in their catalogue, and they flag something obviously a review, everyone would see who did it.

Put your name where your mouse is, in other words.

The fixing a review is a tricky one, because if you 'change' it, you can whack in another character and it is changed. Deleted similarly.

if you 'change' it, you can whack in another character and it is changed

That's why I was thinking this would provide a check-up on that.

ETA: I was running out to lunch before but I should have noted that I would be all for having the flaggers id's visible. But I think that would be viewed by many here as too confrontational. Remember that there are combiners logs, but no separaters logs.

Perhaps anyone also posting his/her review to Amazon could add "This review also posted by me on Amazon" to the LT review, to prevent flagging?

I think that it might be better to have a "Not a review" flag disappear when the review is edited. Sure, the user could change one letter. But the next person to see the review will flag it again; no real harm done even if that goes on for months. If it were easier to get rid of the flag, the system could encourage people to improve their reviews. (I've been editing some of mine, even though they aren't public, as a result of reading these discussions and looking at some flagged reviews.)

#6 "If it were easier to get rid of the flag, the system could encourage people to improve their reviews."

Good point!